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Well I havent used cpap for a few months now because I just cant hack it. I am thinking about looking into the surgery options. Cant they do some things like remove tonsilsto help? I would really like to have a life but thats seems to be impossible when all I want to do is go home and sleep all the time.
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Permalink Reply by Banyon on
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I have experienced a long difficult time getting CPAP to work for me - 4.5 years and still making improvements.
On the other hand, I have three friends who had UPPPs. Each of their experiences is very close to Carl Speas experience.
When I think of these three friends, I am glad to be struggling with CPAP.
Thanks Carl for posting the warning. It is a good reminder for me.
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Permalink Reply by MARIE G. on
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I had the mma surgery (maxillo mandibular advancement surgery) this past January. This is the most definitive treatment for sleep apnea under than a tracheostomy. They reposition both jaws forward to expand the entire airway. The results so far have been AMAZING and truly LIFE-CHANGING. I had a wonderful surgeon - Dr. Kasey Li from Palo Alto. There were no complications whatsover and the pain was highly manageable - and I have a low pain threshold. Check out this website www.sleepnet.com for message boards on sleep apnea surgeries. Check under "non-cpap options" - this is the section where surgical patients post.
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Chris, Go to a good ENT and have a thorough evaluation. Whether surgery will be of any use depends upon the underlying causes of your OSA. I had numerous surgeries and had good results. Most people don't have to have as many surgeries as I did because most people don't have as many congenital conditions as I had. Tonsillectomy for OSA? Maybe. Perhaps a MPPP? Perhaps a turbinoplasty. Perhaps a septoplasty. I had a T&A when I was 4. That had nothing to do with my OSA. To deal with my OSA I had an MPPP, a turbinoplasty, a septoplasty, and sinusotomies to deal with my OSA. There is not one simple answer to this question. A trip to an ENT and a CT scan are the best place to start.
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MMA is only "the most definitive treatment for sleep apnea under a tracheostomy" if the position of the jaw is the cause of the OSA. MMA would have been of no use to me since my jaw was not the problem.
MARIE G. said:I had the mma surgery (maxillo mandibular advancement surgery) this past January. This is the most definitive treatment for sleep apnea under than a tracheostomy. They reposition both jaws forward to expand the entire airway. The results so far have been AMAZING and truly LIFE-CHANGING. I had a wonderful surgeon - Dr. Kasey Li from Palo Alto. There were no complications whatsover and the pain was highly manageable - and I have a low pain threshold. Check out this website www.sleepnet.com for message boards on sleep apnea surgeries. Check under "non-cpap options" - this is the section where surgical patients post.
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Carl, I am so sorry to hear that you had such a negative experience with surgery. I had a bad experience with pcps being unwilling to consider that my chronic tiredness could be due to anything but thyroid issues. I eventually fought with my pcp to get a sleep test. The sleep test revealed I needed surgery. It took several surgeries since I had multiple congenital issues to deal with. My ENT told me to expect a lot of pain during the recovery period. I kept wondering when the real pain was going to show up. (But then, I developed a very high tolerance for pain due to the fact that pcps failed to diagnose multiple medical issues since I was "too young" to have them. Now when my current pcp hears me say the word "pain" she freaks out because she knows how bad pain is when I say the word.)
Carl Speas said:I had surgery 2 years ago. Please get more than 1 doctor's opinion before you do anything. See an ENT and a Sleep Specialist. My ENT insisted that surgery was the only option for me. I regret it. I had a total of 5 proceedures with 3 weeks of the worst pain in my life. I realized that I was not any better so the ENT suggested a mouth appliance, which by its self did not work either. 2 years later I sleep on a bipap with a mouth appliance. Which according to my second doctor could have been avoided if I had skipped surgery. The Specialist said with sleep apnea, as bad as mine, i should have not had surgery it only complicates things and rarely works. If I do not learn to live with bipap a trach is my only option.
Now when I eat I do not know where the food will end up, sometimes it goes up sometimes it goes down. Food is not very comfortable up the back of your nose. Liquid works the same and so does pills. This may be gross but just a couple days ago I blew a cucumber seed out when I blew my nose. Just be very sure that the cure is worth any side affects that may occur. I guarantee the doctor will not tell you them all. This cannot be reversed!
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Chris,
Surgery should always be a last resort. I was able to stop my sleeping problems without CPAP OR surgery. You should at least look into it. Surgery is way to risky for no guarantee.
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Hope this helps buddy.
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Permalink Reply by Mary Z on
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William, in your profile you state you may have sleep apea or someone you care about has sleep apnea. Have you had a sleep study done while using your product? We had someone on the forum touting this very remedy- there were no anecdotal or any other types of reports that it works.
Mary Z.
I was able to stop my sleeping problems without CPAP OR surgery. You should at least look into it. Surgery is way to risky for no guarantee.
"Want to learn how to CURE chronic snoring/sleep apnea naturally?"
Click Here!
or
Natural Snore Relief
Hope this helps buddy.
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Mary,
Thanks for the welcome. :o) I have not had a sleep study done since I have stopped snoring. I have not found the need to do so. My wife isn't trying to kill me in my sleep anymore so.... ;o) lol As far as research and testing goes though, the author, Jeff Roth, has done quite a bit. I didn't think that a book could help my snoring either, and if it wasn't for the money back guarantee I probably wouldn't have gotten it. It's not an "overnight miracle" but it does work very well. All I can really go by is my own personal experience. :o)
Will
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Thanks, Will, there's nothing like personal experience. I'm glad the snoring stopped, but we're talking different subjects if we're talking sleep apnea and snoring. Many people with sleep apnea snore, but stopping the snoring does not mean you've stopped the apnea. Peoples lives depend on getting good information and research about a product. CPAP is a proven therapy and it's success can be measured in the lab, or from machine data in a doctor's office.
We're always interested iin options, though. Thanks again,
Mary Z.
William Telford said:Mary,
Thanks for the welcome. :o) I have not had a sleep study done since I have stopped snoring. I have not found the need to do so. My wife isn't trying to kill me in my sleep anymore so.... ;o) lol As far as research and testing goes though, the author, Jeff Roth, has done quite a bit. I didn't think that a book could help my snoring either, and if it wasn't for the money back guarantee I probably wouldn't have gotten it. It's not an "overnight miracle" but it does work very well. All I can really go by is my own personal experience. :o)
Will
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