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With Chin Strap Data Results

bought the Respironics top of the line chin strap, and recorded some better leak results the night I used it than usual -- to be exact, it was the Respironics Premium Chinstrap i believe:

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Permalink Reply by Mike on May 4, 2009 at 2:46pm
Rock, a couple of thoughts: first, Daniel is not a doctor, and he's certainly not my doctor -- he's a smart guy who has some suggestions for me to discuss with my doctor based on his experience and what he's seen. so he's not "prescribing" anything. the other thing is that i didn't hit 13 once because right now my machine is capped at a range of 10-12 cmwp. i think his point is that me and my doctor might consider opening up the pressure range to see if the machine "wants" to go higher than 12, and if so, to allow it to.

Rock Hinkle said:
8-15cmwp I don't see why you would set it to this range. This software is new to me, and I still could be reading it wrong. In 4 months did he hit 13 once? If the object of therapy is to keep the pressure as low as possible why would you prescribe a wide open range like this. In my opinion the data does not support it.
Daniel said:
In my viewpoint, if your doctor prescribed a pressure range between 8 and 15 cmH2O, I think s/he would be very wise ;-)
Permalink Reply by Martha G. Lee on May 4, 2009 at 3:00pm
Was the chin strap comfortable???
Permalink Reply by Mike on May 4, 2009 at 3:03pm
very much so. the material is pretty comfy. not scratchy. pleasant to the skin. that said, the amount of comfort also depends on how tight you velcro the thing around your head. too tight and it will of course be uncomfortable. but i found the material it's made of high quality. must be why they call it the premier or premium Respironics chin strap.

Martha G. Lee said:
Was the chin strap comfortable???
Permalink Reply by Daniel on May 4, 2009 at 3:07pm
If you truly believe that an AutoCPAP will only raise the pressure if it is warranted, what's the harm of a high maximum? If it is set to 15 and Mike only needs 12, it will only go to 12. I can see the harm of a low minimum, but I don't really see a downside to a high maximum. Some people think that excessive leak could cause the pressure to rise too high, but that is a fallacy.
Permalink Reply by Barbara on May 4, 2009 at 8:05pm
Your graphs are so cool. I wish I had seen this prior to going to DME today. I took the card to my machine to see if it might say why I have not been well. The DME lady said my report looked great. But there were no charts - only a summary page. Mine must be the low grade nosy how many hours did you use the machine type kind.
I like your graphs much better :o)
Barbara
Permalink Reply by TrinaLynn Blair on May 4, 2009 at 8:18pm
Thanks I ordered mine. Have a Blessed Day.Blessings,TrinaLynn
Permalink Reply by Mike on May 4, 2009 at 9:03pm
you really owe it to yourself to make sure your provider gets you a FULLY DATA CAPABLE machine. here's a list of them that Judy kindly contributed:

Fully data capable CPAPS as of April 2009
1] Resmed S8 Elite w/EPR
2] Resmed S8 Elite II w/EPR
3] Respironics REMStar Pro II w/C-Flex
4] Respironics M Series Pro w/C-Flex
5] DeVilBiss IntelliPAP Info
6] Fisher & Paykel SleepStyle 244 (the 244 is the key identifier)

Fully data capable APAPs as of April 2009:
1] Resmed S8 AutoSet Vantage
2] Resmed S8 AutoSet II w/EPR
3] Respironics REMStar Auto w/C-Flex (the beloved pre-M Series "tank")
4] Respironics M Series Auto w/C-Flex
5] Respironics M Series Auot w/A-Flex
6] Puritan Bennett GoodKnight 420E (the "E" is the key identifier)
7] Covidien/Puritan Bennett Sandman Auto
8] DeVilBiss IntelliPAP AutoAdjust
9] Fisher & Paykel SleepStyle 200 Auto (the "Auto" is the key identifier)

Barbara said:
Your graphs are so cool. I wish I had seen this prior to going to DME today. I took the card to my machine to see if it might say why I have not been well. The DME lady said my report looked great. But there were no charts - only a summary page. Mine must be the low grade nosy how many hours did you use the machine type kind.
I like your graphs much better :o)
Barbara
Permalink Reply by Glen England on May 4, 2009 at 11:19pm
I sure wish my machine was a data capable machine. It does have some sort of data download port, but, I don't know what type of cable is necessary.

I don't have to worry about breathing thru my mouth. I use a full face mask. I tried a chin strap but, it did not work well. The full face mask has been a life saver.
Permalink Reply by Daniel on May 5, 2009 at 12:08am
Glen,

If you let us know the make and exact model of device you have, we can tell if it records similar information.

Daniel

Glen England said:
I sure wish my machine was a data capable machine. It does have some sort of data download port, but, I don't know what type of cable is necessary.

I don't have to worry about breathing thru my mouth. I use a full face mask. I tried a chin strap but, it did not work well. The full face mask has been a life saver.
Permalink Reply by BPLink on May 6, 2009 at 3:01am
Mike,

I see that you have the same clusters of dipping lines as I do at one point of your data:

I posted the following a few days ago and you answered me but I realize that you didn't understand my question as I worded my question poorly (as I often do)


I also wanted to know about leak data, I usually have leak lines under 50 (normal for my pressure and mask) but often see clusters of lines dipping slightly below the main line, I wanted to know how and why leaks drop slightly at times then quickly go back to the usual number then quickly dip again LOL you get the idea................what might this be an indication of?
Permalink Reply by Mike on May 6, 2009 at 2:41pm
BP, great question -- I don't know the answer. Hopefully, one of the pros or other patients can say. I'd be interested in learning the answer myself.

BPLink said:
Mike,

I see that you have the same clusters of dipping lines as I do at one point of your data:

I posted the following a few days ago and you answered me but I realize that you didn't understand my question as I worded my question poorly (as I often do)


I also wanted to know about leak data, I usually have leak lines under 50 (normal for my pressure and mask) but often see clusters of lines dipping slightly below the main line, I wanted to know how and why leaks drop slightly at times then quickly go back to the usual number then quickly dip again LOL you get the idea................what might this be an indication of?
Permalink Reply by Daniel on May 6, 2009 at 2:47pm
Sounds like it could be an indication of minor mouth-breathing. Without seeing the data, it's hard to tell. The little up/down/up/downs you see on Mike's leak graph show a very small amount of mouth breathing that is being controlled adequately by the chinstrap.

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