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Permalink Reply by RockRpsgt on April 15, 2010 at 2:41pm

They are bad, really bad. My wife just gave me a study on this. I will see if I can find it after volleyball.

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Permalink Reply by Banyon on April 15, 2010 at 3:46pm

Mike said: "What are the effects, positive and/or negative, of marijuana use on sleep apnea?"

You still have it, but you are cool with it. :)

Here is the study groups like NORML like to cite:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12071539 Cannabinoids in respiratory stability during sleep.

"Our data show that delta9THC and oleamide each stabilized
respiration during all sleep stages. This observation suggests an important role for endocannabinoids in
maintaining autonomic stability during sleep. Oleamide and delta9THC
blocked serotonin-induced exacerbation of sleep apnea (p<0.05 for
each), suggesting that inhibitory coupling between Cannabinoids and serotonin
receptors in the peripheral nervous system may act on apnea expression."

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Permalink Reply by RockRpsgt on April 15, 2010 at 4:22pm

Nice study. I do not believe that it addresses the true nature of the problem though. Most people do not get their THC via an injection in a lab. I have known quite a few smokers in my time as a bartender. I have never heard of anyone freebasing pot. Smoking it and eating it produce very different effects on the body. This study also did not address the sleep architecure at all. Desats are only part of the problem in bad sleep. If a drug increases arousals then it does not matter if it decreases apneas.

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Permalink Reply by 99 on April 15, 2010 at 6:55pm

i heard that the female hormone estrogen was found in water to alcohol
and to back this up was how people drive after ten pints

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Permalink Reply by Banyon on April 15, 2010 at 7:43pm

Oh sure Rock. You will work in a bar profiting from serving alcohol which has a known deleterious effect on apneics.

Then you will slam the use of marijuana with insinuations and no cited evidence.

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Permalink Reply by RockRpsgt on April 15, 2010 at 9:21pm

I did not know about apnea when I worked in the bar.

Banyon said:

Oh sure Rock. You will work in a bar profiting from serving alcohol which has a known deleterious effect on apneics.

Then you will slam the use of marijuana with insinuations and no cited evidence.

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Permalink Reply by RockRpsgt on April 15, 2010 at 9:46pm

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-teenage-mind/200906/marijua...

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/A+hidden+effect+of+marijuana+use:+fin...

Since the 1970s, several studies have examined the effect of THCTHC tetrahydrocannabinol.
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THC
n.
Tetrahydrocannabinol; a compound that is obtained from cannabis or is made synthetically; it is the primary intoxicant in marijuana and hashish.
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psy·cho·ac·tive
adj.
Affecting the mind or mental processes. Used of a drug.
..... Click the link for more information. ingredient in marijuana) on SWS and REM sleep stages. Researchers have demonstrated that THC ingestion ingestion /in·ges·tion/ (-chun) the taking of food, drugs, etc., into the body by mouth.
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in·ges·tion
n.
1. The act of taking food and drink into the body by the mouth.

2. decreases SWS and REM sleep, and has sometimes been found to eliminate REM sleep altogether in rats, rabbits, and cats.(6), (7), (8), (9) In later research, the same effect was observed in humans in controlled studies, with the added finding that sleep cycles did not return to normal until after about one week of abstinence.(10), (11) Difficulty falling and staying asleep and restlessness were noted in three studies a few days after abstinence for people who smoked marijuana and for people who orally ingested THC

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9910/05/chat.kushida.sleep/index.html

Question from Do: Do you know if using marijuana can be linked to getting to sleep easier? What are the pros and cons?

Dr. Clete Kushida: Obviously use of marijuana is illegal. The problem with marijuana as a sleep aid, studies have shown, is that it produces poor sleep and amnesia and also may be associated with unusual behaviors during sleep.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19045957

Abstract
Cannabidiol (CBD) is a constituent of Cannabis sativa that induces nonpsychotropic effects, and some of its biological actions in sleep have been described by the authors' group. Here, the authors report that when administered 10 or 20 microg/1 microl during the lights-on period directly into either lateral hypothalamus (LH) or dorsal raphe nuclei (DRN), which are wake-inducing brain areas, CBD enhanced wakefulness and decreased slow wave sleep and REM sleep. Furthermore, CBD increased alpha and theta power spectra but diminished delta power spectra. Additionally, CBD increased c-Fos expression in LH or DRN. These findings suggest that this cannabinoid is a wake-inducing compound that presumably activates neurons in LH and DRN.

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