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Arizona Shooter Jared Lee Loughner: Sleep Disorder?

I have suspected for a long time that many deranged violent criminals were suffering from sleep-disordered breathing (SDB) and that SDB was the underlying cause of their derangement.

Now I wonder about Loughner. In posts he made on MySpace and in videos he posted on YouTube he writes several times references to sleep including, "I am a sleepwalker," "Jared Loughner is in need of sleep," "I am a dreamer," and "I am a conscious dreamer." Also there is a low resolution photo of Jared with a wide grin and his teeth appear to be crowded, which is an indication that his airway may be narrow.


Things may be changing but we know that the mental health profession has had a tremendous blind spot for SDB. I am sure the same blind spot exists in law enforcement and the courts.

 

Speculation about Loughner aside, is SDB often an underlying cause of deranged individuals acting violently?  What do you think?

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Very sad story.

 

Rooster, I agree. It would be interesting to screen all the prisoners in one facility to see what the rate of sleep apnea is. I'm willing to bet it's going to be very high.

I would like to see the rate of prisoners with parasomnias.

while that may correct and true it is not an excuse
AGREED

99 said:
while that may correct and true it is not an excuse

Not an excuse?

 

Well sometimes it is in legal systems. The perpetrator, John Hinkley, Jr., of President Reagan's assassination attempt was found not guilty by reason of insanity and is under institutional psychiatric care. (After this trial concluded Congress passed the Insanity Defense Reform Act of 1984 which made such rulings more difficult.)

 

In one U.S. eight-state study the insanity defense was used in less than 1% of all court cases and, when used, was successful 26% of the time. Of those cases that were successful, 90% of the defendants had been previously diagnosed with mental illness.

We are a society of nothing but excuses.

99 said:
while that may correct and true it is not an excuse
My first thought was of bi-polar disorder or schizophrenia, both of which tend to break in late teens, early 20s.


Judy said:
My first thought was of bi-polar disorder or schizophrenia, both of which tend to break in late teens, early 20s.

I'm with Judy on this one.  It appears to align perfectly with paranoid schizophrenia from my admittedly sparse knowledge.  Even if he were to have SDB, though, I doubt seriously that SDB would be the root cause of such heinous criminal behavior.  I believe there is more to it than that, including environment and upbringing, and exposure to violence (from abuse or simply being around it) at an early age, among other things. 

this guy's problems go waaaaaaay beyond SDB:

Here is the best article I have seen discussing the root of this widespread problem: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703779704576073973345...

 

In the article Dr. Torrey states, "(Some of the mentally ill) are unaware they are sick."

 

On a radio interview today Dr. Torrey expounded on this statement by saying they don't have the capacity to recognize their problems and this is likely due to damage in the part of the brain that is responsible for self evaluation.

The solution to this situation is obvious—make sure individuals with serious mental illnesses are receiving treatment

individuals should have a right to treatment anyway as the government raise the threshold hurdles it is bound to have its consequenses in one way or anonother


Rooster said:

Here is the best article I have seen discussing the root of this widespread problem: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703779704576073973345...

 

In the article Dr. Torrey states, "(Some of the mentally ill) are unaware they are sick."

 

On a radio interview today Dr. Torrey expounded on this statement by saying they don't have the capacity to recognize their problems and this is likely due to damage in the part of the brain that is responsible for self evaluation.

proof a picture is worth 1,000 words.

Mike said:

this guy's problems go waaaaaaay beyond SDB:

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