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Hello,

I love this forum. Great activity and it's very cool to see how supportive everyone is of one another. 

I have a 'confession' to make.  Well, it's not really a confession because I don't feel guilty about it, but I'm not a CPAP user nor do I suffer from any other sleep disorder (fortunately, and knock on wood).

I'm here, rather, as an observer.  The company I work for is building a patient management and support program to help Home Medical Equipment providers do a better job with their CPAP users.

One of the challenges we are currently working on is all about how to help HMEs use data from CPAP devices in a practical way.  There is a LOT of helpful data collected on these devices, but getting practical use out of the data is difficult.  So we're exploring the problem.

In that process, I've become more acquainted with Zeo.  It's quite interesting because the device is relatively affordable, includes a ton of relevant data, and most of the data collected is not available on a typical CPAP machine  -- so it fills in some holes.

I'm curious if there are folks in here who are using a Zeo while they are on CPAP therapy. Even more curious to see if there are folks who actually look at data from both the Zeo and their CPAP.

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Doug Hudiburg said:

Thanks James @ Intus and Rock. That's good information. I hadn't really thought of the Zeo as a loaner to the patient, but that would make it functional in the US HME business model.

Doug, This still does not make any sense to me. You say that it is not possible to review the data for every pt. I ask why not? The entire process takes all of 15 minutes and could be done prior to the pt ever walking in. The PAP software has been engineered to be easy to read and een easier to transfer.All you have you need is some basic PAP knowledge and the WANT to do it. I know cause I have every program on a laptap. I do not believe we need to reinvent the wheel but rather learn how to make it roll. I do not see how adding what could be an additional expense would be better for the pt. In addition if the DMEs are having trouble reading easy and minimal data how is adding more going to help. Sounds to me like the money would be better spent on their hiring and training processes.

 


 

@James, thanks especially for the link. That kind of integrated report with machine data, EEG data and oximetry data would be amazing to have for the majority of patients.


RockRpsgt said:

I don't undersand the lack of practical use for current CPAP data. Both Resmed and Respironics have put out some amazing software packages for their machines. Both are even oximeter capable. Teaching them how to read it may be beneficial. Just getting them to look at something other than compliance data would be amazing.

I didn't mean that the data isn't useful. The data from CPAP machines is abundant and very detailed. The challenge lies in helping HMEs use the data in a practical way -- in other words, they have the data, the problem is the action that comes from the data.  It is simply not possible to scrutinize all of the data from every patient. So, we need to evolve the systems so that HMEs can easily identify and manage patients who are having trouble.

But that's not really what this thread is about. I mainly wanted to see if people are using Zeo and, if so, how.  I've learned a lot already... thanks!

@Mary. Say no more. In today's world there are so many spammers and scammers... I understand why you might be suspicious.  I really appreciate your additional comments.

Doug, This still does not make any sense to me. You say that it is not possible to review the data for every pt. I ask why not? The entire process takes all of 15 minutes and could be done prior to the pt ever walking in. The PAP software has been engineered to be easy to read and een easier to transfer.All you have you need is some basic PAP knowledge and the WANT to do it. I know cause I have every program on a laptap. I do not believe we need to reinvent the wheel but rather learn how to make it roll. I do not see how adding what could be an additional expense would be better for the pt. In addition if the DMEs are having trouble reading easy and minimal data how is adding more going to help. Sounds to me like the money would be better spent on their hiring and training processes.

 

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