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Permalink Reply by Mike on September 9, 2010 at 1:24pm

i'm not looking to do anything official here, just stay true to the mission of this site, which is to allow the free flow of information about our specific topic: Sleep Apnea. i'm not endorsing or recommending anyone do this. i'm just saying that if people on this site want to publicly strike up deals with one another, then i won't get in the way. i think it's important that everything be public and "out in the open" so that everything is transparent.

Mary Z said:

Thanks for offering the use of the forum for exchange of ResMed products, Mike. Perhaps our classifieds will finally get some postings, or just post as a new discussion. I imagine this hurts cpapauction a lot. The amount of merchandise available on their site has decreased dramatically. When I tried to sell a mask on eBay they wouldn't take the ad as it is a prescription item. I always think of Craigs list as more of a local area for sales. Do you think cpaptalk will offer the same ability to list ResMed items? Should we cross post just for this purpose? I rarely go there, this site keeps me happy.

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Permalink Reply by Mike on September 9, 2010 at 3:04pm

remember that cpapauction.com is owned by cpap.com, which does a lot of business with ResMed. so ResMed in turn has a lot of leverage with the folks over there at cpapauction/ cpap.com, etc. this site, however, has no ties whatsoever with ResMed, so they have no such leverage over here.

j n k said:

I may be wrong, but I believe ResMed is capable of going after anyone or any site at this point. Until someone reins them in, we all may need to watch our backs. (I mean, its not like they have any history of caring about patients. All they care about is the BM DMEs, as they've stated so eloquently to their shareholders.) I would hate to see ResMed attempt to shut down this site, and I truly believe they are capable of trying to.
Just one man's opinion. And I'm wrong a lot. But still . . .

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Permalink Reply by Mike on September 9, 2010 at 3:46pm

this site has no affiliation with ASAA, other than mutual respect. there's an upside and a downside to not getting industry money. the upside is, we can do whatever we want (within the boundaries of the law of course). the downside is, well... no industry money ;-(

j n k said:

Good point!
Still, if you see any suspicious-looking characters following you around . . . Oh, wait, this is NYC isn't it! :-)
And ResMed may have some pull with the ASAA:

http://www.sleepapnea.org/donors/index.html

Mike said:

remember that cpapauction.com is owned by cpap.com, which does a lot of business with ResMed. so ResMed in turn has a lot of leverage with the folks over there at cpapauction/ cpap.com, etc. this site, however, has no ties whatsoever with ResMed, so they have no such leverage over here.

j n k said:

I may be wrong, but I believe ResMed is capable of going after anyone or any site at this point. Until someone reins them in, we all may need to watch our backs. (I mean, its not like they have any history of caring about patients. All they care about is the BM DMEs, as they've stated so eloquently to their shareholders.) I would hate to see ResMed attempt to shut down this site, and I truly believe they are capable of trying to.
Just one man's opinion. And I'm wrong a lot. But still . . .

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Permalink Reply by Clueless in Redwood Shores on September 10, 2010 at 5:11pm

I admire CPAPAuction.com. In fact I purchased my Resmed VPAP from that site at a significant savings. I join the hearty condemnation of Resmed's attempt to limit black and gray market sources for their equipment.

As a practical matter, however, my current insurer, Blue Shield of California, had already eliminated any incentive for further dalliance with these markets for all equipment, not just Resmed's. I have an allowance of $2000 for DME equipment provided in network (with no copay!) and there is no coverage whatsoever for equipment purchased out of network. Go figure!

We also have a smaller DME locally, Sleepquest, that beats the heck out of Apria for both price and service. Sleepquest is a network provider for Blue Shield, tno minor blesssing! Even before Sleepquest arrived on the scene, I thought of Apria as the evil empire -- kind of like the New York Yankees except with none of the entertainment value or other redeeming accomplishments...

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Permalink Reply by gordon on September 10, 2010 at 9:21pm

I don't get this- I went to the site and didn't see anything about Resmed. I see the chat board--- I need a "Ruby Red" chinstrap(s), the one they made in 2006-8(?), the thin stretchy over-the-head pull-on one, if anyone has one. The new one is twice the thickness of neoprene, if it's in a drawer somewhere... the new one is made by Cardinal Health, it's a disaster.
Resmed has all to gain from a secondary market for goods... I have to see what this is all about, if it's a liability thing, or monopoly. Contact me on here if you have an old Ruby Red chinstrap, plz. thanks.

this one- it's thick and hot as Haiti now-
http://www.cpapplus.com/CPAP_Headgear/Tiara_Medical/TMS-09.html

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Permalink Reply by Mike on September 13, 2010 at 3:05pm

ResMed views its customers as not us patients, but rather the brick and mortar vendors of the machines -- DMEs, or durable medical equipment providers. i think this is RMD's effort to please their customers -- the DMEs who are threatened by us patients being able to buy the machines/ masks for cheaper online than we can from them. if a good secondary market develops at a cheaper price point, then the DMEs lose $$$. i think it's as simple as that.

gordon said:

I don't get this- I went to the site and didn't see anything about Resmed. I see the chat board--- I need a "Ruby Red" chinstrap(s), the one they made in 2006-8(?), the thin stretchy over-the-head pull-on one, if anyone has one. The new one is twice the thickness of neoprene, if it's in a drawer somewhere... the new one is made by Cardinal Health, it's a disaster.
Resmed has all to gain from a secondary market for goods... I have to see what this is all about, if it's a liability thing, or monopoly. Contact me on here if you have an old Ruby Red chinstrap, plz. thanks.

this one- it's thick and hot as Haiti now-
http://www.cpapplus.com/CPAP_Headgear/Tiara_Medical/TMS-09.html

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