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Peek into Future of Government Health Care and Sleep Apnea?
one commentator's opinion on the raging health care debate and its relation to sleep apnea
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Permalink Reply by RockRpsgt on
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personally I have seen the reverse of this more often then not. medicare/medicaid will throw money at pts that do not want to be treated. 60% of our pts are on state/government funded insurance and have no problem getting PAP therapy if they need it. I don't know what the answer is. Everyone should be entitled to proper medical care, but at what expense? Should those of us that have paid into the insurance be punished by socialized medicine? i have insurance so I am against it. If I did not have coverage I might be for it. Anyway I am just rambling.
In my opinion we need a tier system with the current medicaid program. the problem, to me anyway, seems to be with the $20,000 to $50,000 income range. This is to much income to qualify for medicare/medicaid yet not enough to pay the high cost of insurance premiums for personal coverage. With a tier system those that made too much to qualify, yet not enough for self pay, could pay into the system based on income. This would help to offset the rising cost of medical treatment. Right now this demographic is going without insurance and everyone is paying for it one way or another.
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Permalink Reply by Henning on
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Here in Denmark we have had a public health care system for about 100 years.
For about 8 years ago, we also got private clinics and hospitals. These are a supplement to our public system and have very low costs for insurance.
For about 3 years ago our government introduced a system with a treatment warranty at 1 month, which means that if a public hospital can't treat a patient within a month he may choose a private hospital (free of charge).
This means that only about 5% of the population represents a private insurance. The difference is only between 1 week to 1 month of waiting.
As self-employed, I have a private insurance, but I am of the opinion that we have a very well-functioning health care system.
I have just read that Obama has mentioned the system in Denmark as a good example.
I wonder when I read about the U.S. reluctance to a public health care system.
It is probably because we in general have a different social system.
Henning
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if you look at medicare/medicaid and our veteren's program about 20% of our population are already on social medicine.
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Permalink Reply by Chris on
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Rock Hinkle said:if you look at medicare/medicaid and our veteren's program about 20% of our population are already on social medicine.
Yes and they are not happy with it. I have seen the horror of public health care as many have and this is why we dont want it here Henning.
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Something has to give though.
Chris said:Rock Hinkle said:if you look at medicare/medicaid and our veteren's program about 20% of our population are already on social medicine.
Yes and they are not happy with it. I have seen the horror of public health care as many have and this is why we dont want it here Henning.
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Permalink Reply by D. W. Conn on
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Sleep is now in the forefront of early treatment of many disorders, Apnea, Type 2 diabetes, stroke, heart attack and even preeclampsia support. There will be tighter rules on who will be able to receive a sleep study and some have suggested that free standing clinics may fade out there may only be Hospital testing…but who knows. With government there could be rationing of some diagnostic tools so it could be people will have to wait longer to get a polysomnogram.
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I don't understand if sleep is at the forefront of preventing these disorders should it not be the other way around? Seems to me like denying pts sleep studies would eventually slow the medical industry down even more. For example the medical industry is just now beginning to get hit with the baby boomers. the next 2 generations behind them are even larger. if we cut down on sleep studies won't things llike heart diseas, stroke, and diabetes go on the rise causing even more inflation to the medical industry? Just my opinion, but I believe that if we get a handle on apnea as early as we can it will reduce more medical cost than it would raise. I am part of the X generation the 2 generations behind me have had more babies than any other generations in our history. they are going to make the baby boomers look like a political protest.
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Rock you are correct. To deny an individual a sleep study would and will delay treatment that could save his her life.. No doubt we need healthcare reform but not the one on the table currently.
Pg 30 sec 123 of HC bill states a government committee will decide who will receive what treatment. Pg 354 Sec 1177 Government has the right to restrict enrollment of people with special needs.
…Does apnea qualify a person to be considered special needs?
So what is to happen in the very near future is unclear. Just get online and read all bills up before congress and bills waiting to be examined…. It looks scary for healthcare.
Rock Hinkle said:I don't understand if sleep is at the forefront of preventing these disorders should it not be the other way around? Seems to me like denying pts sleep studies would eventually slow the medical industry down even more. For example the medical industry is just now beginning to get hit with the baby boomers. the next 2 generations behind them are even larger. if we cut down on sleep studies won't things llike heart diseas, stroke, and diabetes go on the rise causing even more inflation to the medical industry? Just my opinion, but I believe that if we get a handle on apnea as early as we can it will reduce more medical cost than it would raise. I am part of the X generation the 2 generations behind me have had more babies than any other generations in our history. they are going to make the baby boomers look like a political protest.
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Permalink Reply by Dan Lyons on
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Correct me if I am wrong with this:
The primary duty of the doctor was to "Heal"
The primary purpose of the nurse was to "Care"
(I would assume that all the specialties, which now exist, would be sub-sets of nursing.)
When did the primary responsibility of the medical system change to greed?
I figure it was about the same time as our government, which in it's inception was supposed to be un-intrusive in it's citizens lives. It is now to the point that every aspect to which it touches becomes totally dependent upon it and eventually leads to it's destruction, the same as is happening to the government itself.
Under the current administration and the legislative leadership(?), they are dead set on making the entire populace dependant upon their system, ultimately leading to their control - then demise. The interesting aspect is they are exempting themselves.
The medical system is screwed up because we, the patients, have allowed the system to reach this level thru complacency.
If the government gets control, you, the patient, have lost any control. Enjoy your demise.
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Dan,
You are correct.
In the 1990s when healthcare reform was mentioned and a few things were tried it was the healthcare worker who said stop! We were instructed that any patient over the age of 70 who had a history of heart disease or high blood pressure was not to receive heroic efforts. This translated into Cardiac Stints, Cardiac Bypass. The Nurses, Doctors said no way and went ahead and treated the patients.
The general public was never told of this mandate. We have become too complacent and allowed this to happen once again on a larger scale.
Dan Lyons said:Correct me if I am wrong with this:
The primary duty of the doctor was to "Heal"
The primary purpose of the nurse was to "Care"
(I would assume that all the specialties, which now exist, would be sub-sets of nursing.)
When did the primary responsibility of the medical system change to greed?
I figure it was about the same time as our government, which in it's inception was supposed to be un-intrusive in it's citizens lives. It is now to the point that every aspect to which it touches becomes totally dependent upon it and eventually leads to it's destruction, the same as is happening to the government itself.
Under the current administration and the legislative leadership(?), they are dead set on making the entire populace dependant upon their system, ultimately leading to their control - then demise. The interesting aspect is they are exempting themselves.
The medical system is screwed up because we, the patients, have allowed the system to reach this level thru complacency.
If the government gets control, you, the patient, have lost any control. Enjoy your demise.
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