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I don't know if anybody else has experienced this, but sometimes in the middle of the night my machine will start "gurgling" and spraying little drops of water. I have to remove it and sleep the rest of the night without it. Then in the morning I empty the condensation out fo the hose and hang it up to dry. I don't know how to explain the noise it makes but it sounds like a very bad chest rattle.
Has anybody else experienced this? It happened once before, then again two times this week. It's not a question of the mask not being tight enough because it's not an air leak.
Any help or suggestions will be appreciated. Thank you.
Has anybody else experienced this? It happened once before, then again two times this week. It's not a question of the mask not being tight enough because it's not an air leak.
Any help or suggestions will be appreciated. Thank you.
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Permalink Reply by BeeAsleep on
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Yeah, rainout is fun when you get a face full of water huh? It is surprising the first time it happens, but it is common, and JNK just sent you a link to the solution. I made a hose cover but am thinking of buying a set so I can switch them out to wash them. When your bedroom is cold and the air in the CPAP is warm... water happens...
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Permalink Reply by Dan Lyons on
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Phyllis,
Welcome to wonderful world of condensation. This situation is usually caused by your sleeping area being kept cool and the warm moist air to which is being produced by your *PAP machine and humidifier. The 2 air masses collide in the hose running to your mask and you get rain.
You are going to need to reduce the likely hood of this occurring by placing some type of insulated sleeve over your hose to prevent the conflicting air temperatures from mixing.
See jnk's post for one source and another is http://www.padacheek.com/PAC_Hosecover.html . I can vouch for the quality of Karen's products.
You can also make a home made one for a temporary fix, or a permanent one using an old towel or cut the toes out of couple of tube socks.
Good luck with the problem.
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Permalink Reply by Phyllis Hearst on
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Thanks to all who answered my question. I think I'll try the sweatband solution that Jeff proposed first. It's hard to worry about being fashion conscious when I look like an F-18 pilot. Thanks again.
BeeAsleep said:Yeah, rainout is fun when you get a face full of water huh? It is surprising the first time it happens, but it is common, and JNK just sent you a link to the solution. I made a hose cover but am thinking of buying a set so I can switch them out to wash them. When your bedroom is cold and the air in the CPAP is warm... water happens...
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To reduce or eliminate "rain out" your xPAP should be placed lower than the level of your mattress. Hanging your hose above your head not only eliminates "rain out" it also reduces the hose tugging on your mask as you change positions during the night. Assuming you have an integrated heated humidifier on your xPAP you can turn it down or even turn it off and use it as a passover humidifier.
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Permalink Reply by Moe on
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here are a couple of even cheaper solutions...first off, don't fill the water reservoir to the top of the line...I found the mid-night face wash happened usually when res was full. Secondly, and this is the part some will not be able to do but I can because I tend to sleep pretty much in one position all night, pull the last portion of the hose up and tuck it under the covers with you...I have a lot of hose that just hangs down so one night I hauled some of it up and ended up with it feeding out from under the covers ... that's enough to keep the air in the hose warm and the water from condensing before it blows up yer nose...
I started doing this when I was still test driving nasal pillows and was waking up with the water going directly up me nose...not a fun time at all. Having paid for the new mask system, I was determined to make it work or drown and option 2 didn't seem very appealing.
Anyway, it works for me mostly because I'm nowhere near as creative as other folk.
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Oh, I don't know about that, Moe. Taking the hose under the covers w/you is a great idea. And I can vouch for the fact that it works as I've done that MANY times. I just forgot about it since it is HOT summer here now.
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Permalink Reply by Saz RPSGT on
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Rainout
Respironics had just/ or is about to release a machine that is supposed to prevent rainout.
It has an advanced humidifier that provides the optimal amount of humidity for the patient and takes into account the PAP setting. It also is impossible to get water into the electronics which will ruin the flow sensor and machine.
The Respironics Rep challenged me and I accepted....and failed miserably. I shook the hell out of that thing.
It also has Cflex Plus, which is very similar to AFlex on their AutoTitrating units. Very comfortable when I tested at 16cmH20.
Jason
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J. kinda off topic, but are the machines you use to do a sleep study the same machines that a patient uses at home?
J. Sazama RPSGT said:Rainout
Respironics had just/ or is about to release a machine that is supposed to prevent rainout.
It has an advanced humidifier that provides the optimal amount of humidity for the patient and takes into account the PAP setting. It also is impossible to get water into the electronics which will ruin the flow sensor and machine.
The Respironics Rep challenged me and I accepted....and failed miserably. I shook the hell out of that thing.
It also has Cflex Plus, which is very similar to AFlex on their AutoTitrating units. Very comfortable when I tested at 16cmH20.
Jason
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Permalink Reply by Margaret Epperson on
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I get that also once or twice a week and it is like water is getting in my hose somehow. I have to remove mask also and do without machine the rest of night. I don't know what causes this either I hope we find a solution for this problem. I know my mask is tight also and not leaking. Hope someone has a solution to the problem.
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No. Clinical models are expensive and do way too much. Ours have CPAP, BiPAP (with Standard, Standard/Timed, and Times modes), and Auto SV used for complex sleep apnea. These are also designed to be controlled remotely for titrations. Way too much for someone with boring ol' sleep apnea. They cost easily twice as much as the typical CPAP machine a patient would go home with.
Not off topic at all!!! This is a forum for all things pertaining to sleep. :^)
Jason
BeeAsleep said:J. kinda off topic, but are the machines you use to do a sleep study the same machines that a patient uses at home?
J. Sazama RPSGT said:Rainout
Respironics had just/ or is about to release a machine that is supposed to prevent rainout.
It has an advanced humidifier that provides the optimal amount of humidity for the patient and takes into account the PAP setting. It also is impossible to get water into the electronics which will ruin the flow sensor and machine.
The Respironics Rep challenged me and I accepted....and failed miserably. I shook the hell out of that thing.
It also has Cflex Plus, which is very similar to AFlex on their AutoTitrating units. Very comfortable when I tested at 16cmH20.
Jason
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