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saw this on another thread, and found it alarming: "Be careful with the "premium"chin strap. It can pull your chin back....This is not the direction you want your chin to go."

The implication is that a chinstrap can disfigure you. Hmmm...

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No not disfigure but make one's Apnea worse, if you will. Let us look at what oral appliances do ...class, yes they move your chin / jaw forward, moving the tounge forward. This gives a apnea patient more room to breathe. Now some super duper chin straps have a strap on top of the head, and for extra holding power they put a strap round the neck too.....OK lets put on our thinking caps..if your have a strap around your chin and the back of your neck witch way is your chin being pulled..... class, yes backward the way that will move your tounge back to wear it will block your breathing.
Now like in "my Cousin Vinnie" I'M DONE WITH THIS GUY! Thats was fun mike!
i guess i'll just monitor my data day by day and see if my AHI goes up with the chinstrap.
do you have the double chin strap??


Mike said:
i guess i'll just monitor my data day by day and see if my AHI goes up with the chinstrap.
I will show you with pictures if I can find one of those chin straps with the added neck strap
don't think so. It velcroes together at the top of my head, and is strapped under my chin, and also has a little piece that helps it stay in place by sitting across a little nook in the back of my scalp --- so nothing touches my neck. what's your take on this kind (the Respironics Premium chinstrap is i think what they call it)?

Duane McDade said:
do you have the double chin strap??


Mike said:
i guess i'll just monitor my data day by day and see if my AHI goes up with the chinstrap.
the one I that I'm am speaking / writting about have two fasteners top of head and back of neck. I guess I dont know the Company reponcable for it.,
The same problem can happen with a full face mask.
It is called jaw retropulsion. This can ocurr from tightening a FFM or chinstrap to tight. I hate to say it but the fixodent trick seems to be the best I ahve seen so far. It holds your mouth shut without preventing it from being opened for emergencies.
now i hate to say this, but what is the "fixodent trick"?

Rock Hinkle said:
It is called jaw retropulsion. This can ocurr from tightening a FFM or chinstrap to tight. I hate to say it but the fixodent trick seems to be the best I ahve seen so far. It holds your mouth shut without preventing it from being opened for emergencies.
The rear strap on the Respironics Premium is simply to prevent the main strap from slipping off. If it is puilling your jaw, it's way too tight. I think the chinstrap that causes what Rock referred to as "jaw retopulsion" (I thought is was called retrognathia) is the Tiara Ruby and Topaz chinstraps. They have a Hannibal Lechter look to them and have one set of straps pulling upward above the ears and another set pulling backward below the ears. Depending on the person, this type of chinstrap can be effective. However, you have to be careful not to have the rear velcro too tight, or it will pull your jaw backwards, potentially making apnea worse.

Daniel

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