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Permalink Reply by Rette Tyrrel on January 13, 2011 at 11:28am

Good article.  When I read the police reports, in one instance he did state something to that effect to the campus police.  He just didn't get.

Rooster said:

Here is the best article I have seen discussing the root of this widespread problem: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703779704576073973345...

 

In the article Dr. Torrey states, "(Some of the mentally ill) are unaware they are sick."

 

On a radio interview today Dr. Torrey expounded on this statement by saying they don't have the capacity to recognize their problems and this is likely due to damage in the part of the brain that is responsible for self evaluation.

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Permalink Reply by RockRpsgt on January 14, 2011 at 2:58am

Rooster what do you think the widespread problems is?

 

We emptied the hospitals in the 60 for the same reasons that mental problems go untreated today. The cost became a burden to local governments as most people with mental problems have no insurance.

 

I do not think that Laughner's problems have anything to do with SDBs. You and I are just as much as fault as the state of Az for this problem.

Rooster said:

Here is the best article I have seen discussing the root of this widespread problem: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703779704576073973345...

 

In the article Dr. Torrey states, "(Some of the mentally ill) are unaware they are sick."

 

On a radio interview today Dr. Torrey expounded on this statement by saying they don't have the capacity to recognize their problems and this is likely due to damage in the part of the brain that is responsible for self evaluation.

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Permalink Reply by Rette Tyrrel on January 14, 2011 at 6:05am

Also, part of the problem in the 60's, when the hospitals were emptied, was the ACLU who sued everyone because the patients were in the hospitals against their will.  Many patients had jobs in the hospitals.  In Trenton, NJ at the state hospital, the hospital had a farm, other patients worked in the cafeteria, and had all kinds of jobs.  In another lawsuit, the ACLU said it was unconstitutional to have people on welfare work.  VT at one time had  county farms.  If you were destitute, you could live at the farm, and work it until you were back on your feet.  I had family in both states and remember them discussing the situations.  

 

Rock Hinkle said:

Rooster what do you think the widespread problems is?

 

We emptied the hospitals in the 60 for the same reasons that mental problems go untreated today. The cost became a burden to local governments as most people with mental problems have no insurance.

 

I do not think that Laughner's problems have anything to do with SDBs. You and I are just as much as fault as the state of Az for this problem.

Rooster said:

Here is the best article I have seen discussing the root of this widespread problem: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703779704576073973345...

 

In the article Dr. Torrey states, "(Some of the mentally ill) are unaware they are sick."

 

On a radio interview today Dr. Torrey expounded on this statement by saying they don't have the capacity to recognize their problems and this is likely due to damage in the part of the brain that is responsible for self evaluation.

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Permalink Reply by Judy on January 14, 2011 at 7:29am

Right on, Rette! At least those programs left people w/a sense of dignity and self-respect.

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Permalink Reply by Rooster on January 14, 2011 at 7:32pm

Wow another very surprising article.

 

"Ex-Girlfriend Recalls Loughner as shy, sweet, thoughtful with a peaceful and happy family"  "He was nice, attentive. He was never rude. He had no interest in drugs or alcohol. He was respectful. He would give me compliments and never ignore me."

 

Full article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703583404576080122008...

 

 

 

 

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