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Oral Systemic Balance (dental device)
Hello, I was asked to post this as a new discussion topic. I wanted to provide some information on the Oral Systemic Balance (OSB). I am not a dentist, I am a professor. I have had migraines for 36 years, have had every treatment from acupuncture to Zanadine (muscle relaxant). The migraines usually came twice a week, and lasted 1-3 days. You can see how this would define my life. I got the OSB (oral systemic balance) dental device from Dr. Lawler, and have not had a migraine in 3 months. I'm one of the people Dr. Lawler has videotaped. All I can say is, I hope the dental and medical communities embrace this research so others can benefit as I have. Dr. Lawler is studying with Dr. Farrand Robson of Tacoma Washington.
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Permalink Reply by Carl Speas on
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I just got home from my follow appointment with Dr.Lawler. I have been using the day time appliance for 10 days now. I have expienced many changes in 10 days. I can breath better and easier than I have ever before in my life. I am much calmer. I can walk without chest pains. I can walk up and down stairs with out assistance. I can make it through a full stretching session without feeling I am going to suffocate. I have had no headaches or neck pain for 10 days, that in itself is a miracle. I have already started reducing my pain medicine.
I start my night time appliance tonight. Hopefully I will be bpap free soon. I will start sleeping tonight with the appliance, off the machine. I will check back in with him after a week off the machine. Will be doing sleep testing at some point. I will keep you posted of further progress. Carol thank you so much for starting this post. This could change my life!
Carl
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Permalink Reply by Banyon on
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So glad for you. May the nighttime appliance also give you dramatic results.
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I have slept 3 nights with the night time appliance. I am feeling great! I have much more energy today than I have had for a long time. I want to pinch myself to see if this a dream. I never felt this good the whole 10 months I used bpap. I slept over 5 hours without waking up (wouldn't have woke then but my wife was up) I went right back to sleep. I have not had to get up in the night to use the restroom either. I am usually wake 3 or more times a night even when on bpap. I am curious to see what a sleep study will show.
I will admit the appliance is a little bulky but manageable. It does not leave sores on my face. i do not have to worry about leaks or the sound of the machine waking me up. I do not wake up feeling someone has been pumping lungs so fill of air that my ribs and back are sore. My wife says my breathing at night is the best that it has been in 20 years.
So far I am sold on this system only time will tell. I have another appointment this Friday with Dr Lawler. I will keep you updated.
Carl
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Permalink Reply by Carol Hostetter on
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Carl, thanks for telling us! It is wonderful to hear. What a gift the appliance is.
Carol
Carl Speas said:I have slept 3 nights with the night time appliance. I am feeling great! I have much more energy today than I have had for a long time. I want to pinch myself to see if this a dream. I never felt this good the whole 10 months I used bpap. I slept over 5 hours without waking up (wouldn't have woke then but my wife was up) I went right back to sleep. I have not had to get up in the night to use the restroom either. I am usually wake 3 or more times a night even when on bpap. I am curious to see what a sleep study will show.
I will admit the appliance is a little bulky but manageable. It does not leave sores on my face. i do not have to worry about leaks or the sound of the machine waking me up. I do not wake up feeling someone has been pumping lungs so fill of air that my ribs and back are sore. My wife says my breathing at night is the best that it has been in 20 years.
So far I am sold on this system only time will tell. I have another appointment this Friday with Dr Lawler. I will keep you updated.
Carl
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Permalink Reply by Rooster on
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Carl, Do either of the appliances advance the jaw? Are there illustrations of the appliances on the OSB website?
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The nigh time appliance advances the jaw. I looked on the website and could not find a picture of the appliance. The night time is a upper and lower jaw appliance. They are actually connected to each other by 2 arms. It is a mouthful but is comfortable to wear. the lower jaw appliance on this one is very simular to the daytime one. This appliance is very restrictive and does not allow alot of movement. I can still talk and drink with it in though.
The day time appliance advances the jaw also. The daytime one is much freer to wear it kind of floats in your mouth and finds its own comfort spot. the daytime appliance is a lower jaw appliance. It allows more room in your mouth for your tongue and opens your airway.
Carl
Rooster said:Carl, Do either of the appliances advance the jaw? Are there illustrations of the appliances on the OSB website?
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I found a picture of the appliances at this website
http://fibrofriends.typepad.com/fibro_friends/2010/02/oral-systemic... Carl Speas said:The nigh time appliance advances the jaw. I looked on the website and could not find a picture of the appliance. The night time is a upper and lower jaw appliance. They are actually connected to each other by 2 arms. It is a mouthful but is comfortable to wear. the lower jaw appliance on this one is very simular to the daytime one. This appliance is very restrictive and does not allow alot of movement. I can still talk and drink with it in though.
The day time appliance advances the jaw also. The daytime one is much freer to wear it kind of floats in your mouth and finds its own comfort spot. the daytime appliance is a lower jaw appliance. It allows more room in your mouth for your tongue and opens your airway.
Carl
Rooster said:Carl, Do either of the appliances advance the jaw? Are there illustrations of the appliances on the OSB website?
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My sleep doctor told me yesterday that only people with mild sleep apnea will benefit from a dental device. Is that true? Does this device move your teeth and jaw permanently? This is a neat discovery and plan to research it more since I too deal with daily headaches.
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Your sleep doctor is wrong; he is relying on an old rule of thumb that had no science behind it.
Dental devices will treat some people with severe apnea well and will not treat some people with mild apnea. It depends on the individual.
See these studies http://www.sleepreviewmag.com/issues/ar ... -10_11.asp and http://www.sleepreviewmag.com/issues/ar ... -10_11.asp
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I have severe sleep apnea. I have had 5 surgeries that did not work. bpap works but only if I wear a dental appliance. So far this new dental appliance seems to be working without the machine. We will be doing a sleep study soon to make sure. This device soes not move your jaw permantly.
Corinne said:My sleep doctor told me yesterday that only people with mild sleep apnea will benefit from a dental device. Is that true? Does this device move your teeth and jaw permanently? This is a neat discovery and plan to research it more since I too deal with daily headaches.
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I had an appointment with Dr. Lawler today. We viewed x-rays that showed how open my air way is with my night time dental appliance. It was absolutely amazing, I am wide open with the appliance. Without it I am shut up tight. I am doing an in home sleep study this weekend to check progress as far as sleep apnea is concerned, hopefully everything will come back good and no more bpap.
I already feel better with the applinaces than I do with bpap. I have so much more energy. My wife says that I am very alert of a morning, no more groginess and struggling to start the day. She is very pleased with the results of this system. It is making me better everyday.
carl
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