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Michael Jackson's Death
Anyone else at least wondering whether Michael Jackson had a sleep breathing problem that contributed to his cardiac arrest? The guy's nasal passages must have been as screwy as his mutilated face, making it hard to get air, no?
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Permalink Reply by Steven Y. Park, MD on
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Whenever a relatively young person dies unexpectedly from a heart attack, sleep apnea is a likely possibility. We'll have to see what his autopsy reveals. It could also be medication induced, or a congenital problem.
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Permalink Reply by Mike Fritz on
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Mike Fritz said:I feel sorry for the kids, being raisesd in obscure isolation by someone who looked like a different woman each week has to have left a mental mess that an entire herd of shrinks is going to have trouble wading through. On the otherhand I a sure Jackson never heard their questions or fears because his last doctor used part of his ear to make his nose.
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I was never an MJ fan. Not my kind of music and he was just too too "strange" to care to know much about him. The charges against him, even tho dropped or cleared, did nothing to arouse my interest or sympathy for him either. I detested his crotch grabbing and the copycat others who followed suit after him.
His lawyer has intimated that prescription drugs may have been involved. Its been said the doctor hired by the London concert tour company administered a shot of Demerol not too long before his death. He had once told Lisa Marie Presely that he had a feeling he was going to die like her father.
I didn't know that he had lupus which can be a terribly debilitating condition and could account for his aversion to sun and insistence on dark glasses, hats, glove one one hand. He must have been a tortured soul to have voluntarily gone thru such mutiliating surgeries to look like his sister, Janice (?) Janet (?) rather than himself. May he rest in peace now.
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Permalink Reply by Mike on
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Mollete, I have no idea what "junk" on your page you're referring to. But send me a private message and we can sort it out, whatever it is.
Mollete said:I think you'll post anything to try to get board hits, and your comment "nasal passages must have been as screwy as his mutilated face" clearly demonstrates you have no respect for the dead. If you didn't say that to his face when he was alive, then don't say it now, let him RIP.
On second thought, you shouldn't say it now even if you did say it to his face when he was alive. mollete
PS - When are you going to clean that junk off My Page?
oxoxoxo
mollete
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Permalink Reply by RockRpsgt on
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I personally think that being the hypochondriac that they reported he would have been on top of an apnea problem. i think it was all the self medication. What do I know though.
Mollete why are you so mean! Aren't ministers supposed to be nice and understanding of those around them. I believe that you are the one that will do anything for attention.
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Permalink Reply by BPLink on
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I'd be very surprised.
I never connected Jackson with sleep apnea although anything is possible.
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Permalink Reply by Marie Davis on
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Actually Mike, I think nasal passages actually could have something to do with it. I have had 3 sinus surgeries on my nose and my sleep center said I will probably always need a CPAP as I am a mouth breather and my nose will never be the same... By the way Mollette chill out...Michael was a freak and a lot more crappy things could be said about him then he had way to many plastic surgeries and his doctor "SHOULD HAVE JUST SAID NO!!" He was found in bed so maybe he was heavily sedated and had a breathing problem or heart condition. Time will tell.....in the mean time we will just have to listen to all the blah blah blah about the self-proclaimed "King of Pop"??
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Permalink Reply by Mack D Jones, MD, SAAN on
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A case can be made that Michael had OSA. If it is true that he suffered from severe insomnia requiring medications to sleep, then the escalating treatment to the extreme of requiring IV anesthesia finally did him in. Insomnia is a common and often a major problem among OSA patients. His doctor allegedly found him in bed with a weak pulse an not breathing. He started chest compressions with a hand on his chest and another on his back and at some point put him on the floor and continued CPR. (Today it's CCR or cardio cerebral resuscitation for true cardiac arrest, i.e. 100/ min forceful compressions without mouth to mouth breathing).
As a neurologist, I have to ask what was the respiratory arrest all about? Did he receive an IV anesthetic one hour before? Why give chest compressions when he had a pulse. Shouldn't he have given mouth to mouth breathing? Any sedative hypnotic, narcotic, anesthetic will prolong apneas in an OSA patient to the point of cardiac arrest. Therefore, doctors should never give these medications to an OSA patient who is not on a PAP machine.
If he had OSA and I suspect he did, then he needed forceful mouth to mouth breathing to get his respirations started again. In so doing, his heart rate would have picked up and we might not be morning his death.
OSA also causes extreme pain and profound fatigue presumably due to the white matter strokes recently revealed by Paul Macey et al, in the July 1, 2008 issue of the Journal Sleep. MRI-DTI images showed for the first time in a group of 41 untreated OSA patients between the ages of 38 and 52. Similar lesions in Michael's brain could explain his need for pain medications which could easily lead to addiction. OSA and drug addiction will almost invariably have tragic (fatal) consequences.
Of course this is speculation. The facts may never be known, but if any of what I suspect about his disease is true, he was was living a nightmare and none of his doctors had a clue.
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Its sad, isn't it? All that money and these celebrities, especially those known to be a bit temperamental like Elvis and Michael Jackson, can't get a decent doctor. There's something about the prestige of having a celebrity for a patient, including the money, that these doctors just can NOT bring themselves to say No or refuse to provide them w/the medications and treatments and treat them and ..... we see the consequences at the funerals and in the news.
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i think the autopsies' reports will be telling. perhaps we'll have further confirmation/ rejection of this hunch that we have when the results are in.
Mack D Jones, MD, SAAN said:A case can be made that Michael had OSA. If it is true that he suffered from severe insomnia requiring medications to sleep, then the escalating treatment to the extreme of requiring IV anesthesia finally did him in. Insomnia is a common and often a major problem among OSA patients. His doctor allegedly found him in bed with a weak pulse an not breathing. He started chest compressions with a hand on his chest and another on his back and at some point put him on the floor and continued CPR. (Today it's CCR or cardio cerebral resuscitation for true cardiac arrest, i.e. 100/ min forceful compressions without mouth to mouth breathing).
As a neurologist, I have to ask what was the respiratory arrest all about? Did he receive an IV anesthetic one hour before? Why give chest compressions when he had a pulse. Shouldn't he have given mouth to mouth breathing? Any sedative hypnotic, narcotic, anesthetic will prolong apneas in an OSA patient to the point of cardiac arrest. Therefore, doctors should never give these medications to an OSA patient who is not on a PAP machine.
If he had OSA and I suspect he did, then he needed forceful mouth to mouth breathing to get his respirations started again. In so doing, his heart rate would have picked up and we might not be morning his death.
OSA also causes extreme pain and profound fatigue presumably due to the white matter strokes recently revealed by Paul Macey et al, in the July 1, 2008 issue of the Journal Sleep. MRI-DTI images showed for the first time in a group of 41 untreated OSA patients between the ages of 38 and 52. Similar lesions in Michael's brain could explain his need for pain medications which could easily lead to addiction. OSA and drug addiction will almost invariably have tragic (fatal) consequences.
Of course this is speculation. The facts may never be known, but if any of what I suspect about his disease is true, he was was living a nightmare and none of his doctors had a clue.
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