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The CPAP Guardian Duffel Travel Bag is not only a stylish and spacious travel bag that is ideal for carrying your CPAP machine and equipment, but it also houses the most effective CPAP sterilizer available. The built-in Ozone Disinfector will safely and effectively sterilize your equipment from the inevitable build-up of bacteria lurking inside your system.

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Permalink Reply by Fred on March 5, 2012 at 3:16pm

I just ordered one of their dishwasher safe tanks. Not planning to put it in the dishwasher, but it does come apart for easy cleaning. The only problem is they don't make the kind that fits my humidifier anymore, so I had to order a new cover to accommodate. Funny how they make the slightest changes to the equipment every few months so you always have to buy something new.

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Permalink Reply by ZolliStar on March 5, 2012 at 4:29pm

      Question for you, Gordon:  Do you think if I use the germicide every ten days or so, that it will be sufficiently protective?  Here's the germicide that I have in mind:

     http://www.cpap.com/productpage/Control-III-Disinfectant-Germicide-...

Gordon H said:

CPAP.com also says you should replace your humidifier chamber every 6 months, so maybe you might as well use tap water (Sarcasm)

Having worked in the industrial water treatment industry, you will never go wrong playing safe. Use distilled water as instructed. Clean out your chamber every so often or replace them if your budget allows you to do so. You are breathing the vapor into your lungs, and you have taken enough precautions to use use a humidifier! Use some common sense, please.

Nunya Bizness said:

I'm looking on the CPAP.com website and they have "dishwasher safe" humidifier chambers. I would have never believed you could put one of those in the dishwasher.

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Permalink Reply by Gordon H on March 5, 2012 at 5:15pm

You don't have to pay for special germicides as plain old bleach kills germs just as effectively. The only problem will be the odor and you don't want to breathe those vapors. I am guessing you could then wash out with regular tap water, dry thoroughly with a clean cloth and air dry. Then use your distilled water if there are no more odors from the bleach.

All I have ever done is use distilled water, wiped out the chamber and let the chamber air dry. I may consider replacing the chamber once every year or two for $26 (and see if Medicare will pay for that). I don't use the humidifier in the summer, but I know some people do, so I am only use this 6-7 months a year. Therefore, I can use bleach when I put the humidifier away for the summer and let everything dry out until I install it back on in the fall.

However, that said, if you want to use a germicide, I am a fan of the Beaumont Products product line. They do make the Citrus II Mask Wipes I use daily, and they do make a Hospital Germicide Cleaner both as a spray and a wipe. My wife and I ran a B&B from 1992-2000. We used and sold Citrus Magic Room Deodorizer in our rooms then (don't use it now for some reason), and became a fan of their products. That is another alternative as they do also sell a gallon refill to make it cost effective.

ZolliStar said:

      Question for you, Gordon:  Do you think if I use the germicide every ten days or so, that it will be sufficiently protective?  Here's the germicide that I have in mind:

     http://www.cpap.com/productpage/Control-III-Disinfectant-Germicide-...

Gordon H said:

CPAP.com also says you should replace your humidifier chamber every 6 months, so maybe you might as well use tap water (Sarcasm)

Having worked in the industrial water treatment industry, you will never go wrong playing safe. Use distilled water as instructed. Clean out your chamber every so often or replace them if your budget allows you to do so. You are breathing the vapor into your lungs, and you have taken enough precautions to use use a humidifier! Use some common sense, please.

Nunya Bizness said:

I'm looking on the CPAP.com website and they have "dishwasher safe" humidifier chambers. I would have never believed you could put one of those in the dishwasher.

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Permalink Reply by ZolliStar on March 5, 2012 at 5:18pm

Thanks for all the information, Gordon. One quickie question (I don't promise it will be my last!): Isn't bleach a bit of a harsh chemical that could affect the tank's hard plastic?

Gordon H said:

You don't have to pay for special germicides as plain old bleach kills germs just as effectively. The only problem will be the odor and you don't want to breathe those vapors. I am guessing you could then wash out with regular tap water, dry thoroughly with a clean cloth and air dry. Then use your distilled water if there are no more odors from the bleach.

All I have ever done is use distilled water, wiped out the chamber and let the chamber air dry. I may consider replacing the chamber once every year or two for $26 (and see if Medicare will pay for that). I don't use the humidifier in the summer, but I know some people do, so I am only use this 6-7 months a year. Therefore, I can use bleach when I put the humidifier away for the summer and let everything dry out until I install it back on in the fall.

However, that said, if you want to use a germicide, I am a fan of the Beaumont Products product line. They do make the Citrus II Mask Wipes I use daily, and they do make a Hospital Germicide Cleaner both as a spray and a wipe. My wife and I ran a B&B from 1992-2000. We used and sold Citrus Magic Room Deodorizer in our rooms then (don't use it now for some reason), and became a fan of their products. That is another alternative as they do also sell a gallon refill to make it cost effective.

ZolliStar said:

      Question for you, Gordon:  Do you think if I use the germicide every ten days or so, that it will be sufficiently protective?  Here's the germicide that I have in mind:

     http://www.cpap.com/productpage/Control-III-Disinfectant-Germicide-...

Gordon H said:

CPAP.com also says you should replace your humidifier chamber every 6 months, so maybe you might as well use tap water (Sarcasm)

Having worked in the industrial water treatment industry, you will never go wrong playing safe. Use distilled water as instructed. Clean out your chamber every so often or replace them if your budget allows you to do so. You are breathing the vapor into your lungs, and you have taken enough precautions to use use a humidifier! Use some common sense, please.

Nunya Bizness said:

I'm looking on the CPAP.com website and they have "dishwasher safe" humidifier chambers. I would have never believed you could put one of those in the dishwasher.

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Permalink Reply by 99 on March 5, 2012 at 5:20pm

Adding some bleach helps make water safe to use.
If tap water is clear:
1. Use bleach that does not have an added scent (like lemon).
2.Add 1/8 teaspoon (8 drops or about 0.75 milliliters) of household
liquid bleach to 1 gallon (16 cups) of water.
3. Mix well and wait 30 minutes or more before drinking.
If tap water is cloudy:
1. Use bleach that does not have an added scent (like lemon).
2.Add 1/4 teaspoon (16 drops or 1.5 milliliters) of household liquid
bleach to 1 gallon (16 cups) of water.
3. Mix well and wait 30 minutes or more before drinking.
Remember that containers may need to be
sanitized before using them to store safe water:
1. Use bleach that does not have an added scent (like lemon).
2. Add 1 teaspoon (64 drops or 5 milliliters) of household liquid
bleach to 1 quart (32oz, 4 cups, or about 1 liter) of water.
3. Pour this into a clean storage container and shake well, making
sure that the solution coats the entire inside of the container.
4. Let sit at least 30 seconds, and then pour out solution.
5. Let air dry OR rinse with clean water that has already been made
safe, if available.
■ Never mix bleach with ammonia or other cleaners.
■ Open windows and doors to get fresh air when you
use bleach.
For more information on water use
after a natural disaster, please visit
http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/emergency/safe_water/personal.html
CS202278
After a natural disaster, water
may not be safe to drink.
Listen to local officials to find
out if your water is safe.
Make Water Safe

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Permalink Reply by Gordon H on March 5, 2012 at 5:21pm

Depends on the plastic, I guess. Clorox comes in a plastic container, doesn't it?

ZolliStar said:

Thanks for all the information, Gordon. One quickie question (I don't promise it will be my last!): Isn't bleach a bit of a harsh chemical that could affect the tank's hard plastic?

Gordon H said:

You don't have to pay for special germicides as plain old bleach kills germs just as effectively. The only problem will be the odor and you don't want to breathe those vapors. I am guessing you could then wash out with regular tap water, dry thoroughly with a clean cloth and air dry. Then use your distilled water if there are no more odors from the bleach.

All I have ever done is use distilled water, wiped out the chamber and let the chamber air dry. I may consider replacing the chamber once every year or two for $26 (and see if Medicare will pay for that). I don't use the humidifier in the summer, but I know some people do, so I am only use this 6-7 months a year. Therefore, I can use bleach when I put the humidifier away for the summer and let everything dry out until I install it back on in the fall.

However, that said, if you want to use a germicide, I am a fan of the Beaumont Products product line. They do make the Citrus II Mask Wipes I use daily, and they do make a Hospital Germicide Cleaner both as a spray and a wipe. My wife and I ran a B&B from 1992-2000. We used and sold Citrus Magic Room Deodorizer in our rooms then (don't use it now for some reason), and became a fan of their products. That is another alternative as they do also sell a gallon refill to make it cost effective.

ZolliStar said:

      Question for you, Gordon:  Do you think if I use the germicide every ten days or so, that it will be sufficiently protective?  Here's the germicide that I have in mind:

     http://www.cpap.com/productpage/Control-III-Disinfectant-Germicide-...

Gordon H said:

CPAP.com also says you should replace your humidifier chamber every 6 months, so maybe you might as well use tap water (Sarcasm)

Having worked in the industrial water treatment industry, you will never go wrong playing safe. Use distilled water as instructed. Clean out your chamber every so often or replace them if your budget allows you to do so. You are breathing the vapor into your lungs, and you have taken enough precautions to use use a humidifier! Use some common sense, please.

Nunya Bizness said:

I'm looking on the CPAP.com website and they have "dishwasher safe" humidifier chambers. I would have never believed you could put one of those in the dishwasher.

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Permalink Reply by Gordon H on March 5, 2012 at 5:25pm

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_bleach_hurt_plastic

Gordon H said:

Depends on the plastic, I guess. Clorox comes in a plastic container, doesn't it?

ZolliStar said:

Thanks for all the information, Gordon. One quickie question (I don't promise it will be my last!): Isn't bleach a bit of a harsh chemical that could affect the tank's hard plastic?

Gordon H said:

You don't have to pay for special germicides as plain old bleach kills germs just as effectively. The only problem will be the odor and you don't want to breathe those vapors. I am guessing you could then wash out with regular tap water, dry thoroughly with a clean cloth and air dry. Then use your distilled water if there are no more odors from the bleach.

All I have ever done is use distilled water, wiped out the chamber and let the chamber air dry. I may consider replacing the chamber once every year or two for $26 (and see if Medicare will pay for that). I don't use the humidifier in the summer, but I know some people do, so I am only use this 6-7 months a year. Therefore, I can use bleach when I put the humidifier away for the summer and let everything dry out until I install it back on in the fall.

However, that said, if you want to use a germicide, I am a fan of the Beaumont Products product line. They do make the Citrus II Mask Wipes I use daily, and they do make a Hospital Germicide Cleaner both as a spray and a wipe. My wife and I ran a B&B from 1992-2000. We used and sold Citrus Magic Room Deodorizer in our rooms then (don't use it now for some reason), and became a fan of their products. That is another alternative as they do also sell a gallon refill to make it cost effective.

ZolliStar said:

      Question for you, Gordon:  Do you think if I use the germicide every ten days or so, that it will be sufficiently protective?  Here's the germicide that I have in mind:

     http://www.cpap.com/productpage/Control-III-Disinfectant-Germicide-...

Gordon H said:

CPAP.com also says you should replace your humidifier chamber every 6 months, so maybe you might as well use tap water (Sarcasm)

Having worked in the industrial water treatment industry, you will never go wrong playing safe. Use distilled water as instructed. Clean out your chamber every so often or replace them if your budget allows you to do so. You are breathing the vapor into your lungs, and you have taken enough precautions to use use a humidifier! Use some common sense, please.

Nunya Bizness said:

I'm looking on the CPAP.com website and they have "dishwasher safe" humidifier chambers. I would have never believed you could put one of those in the dishwasher.

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Permalink Reply by Gordon H on March 5, 2012 at 5:35pm

More info:

Bleach damages ABS. Bleach does not damage polythene or polypropylene. Bleach damages nylons and acetals. Not too bad with polystyrenes but some damage.

We do not want to dilute the bleach for drinking. Sorry if I gave the impression of using pure bleach. You do need to dilute the bleach. A 1 to 5 solution is effective in killing bacteria and some viruses.

Gordon H said:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_bleach_hurt_plastic

Gordon H said:

Depends on the plastic, I guess. Clorox comes in a plastic container, doesn't it?

ZolliStar said:

Thanks for all the information, Gordon. One quickie question (I don't promise it will be my last!): Isn't bleach a bit of a harsh chemical that could affect the tank's hard plastic?

Gordon H said:

You don't have to pay for special germicides as plain old bleach kills germs just as effectively. The only problem will be the odor and you don't want to breathe those vapors. I am guessing you could then wash out with regular tap water, dry thoroughly with a clean cloth and air dry. Then use your distilled water if there are no more odors from the bleach.

All I have ever done is use distilled water, wiped out the chamber and let the chamber air dry. I may consider replacing the chamber once every year or two for $26 (and see if Medicare will pay for that). I don't use the humidifier in the summer, but I know some people do, so I am only use this 6-7 months a year. Therefore, I can use bleach when I put the humidifier away for the summer and let everything dry out until I install it back on in the fall.

However, that said, if you want to use a germicide, I am a fan of the Beaumont Products product line. They do make the Citrus II Mask Wipes I use daily, and they do make a Hospital Germicide Cleaner both as a spray and a wipe. My wife and I ran a B&B from 1992-2000. We used and sold Citrus Magic Room Deodorizer in our rooms then (don't use it now for some reason), and became a fan of their products. That is another alternative as they do also sell a gallon refill to make it cost effective.

ZolliStar said:

      Question for you, Gordon:  Do you think if I use the germicide every ten days or so, that it will be sufficiently protective?  Here's the germicide that I have in mind:

     http://www.cpap.com/productpage/Control-III-Disinfectant-Germicide-...

Gordon H said:

CPAP.com also says you should replace your humidifier chamber every 6 months, so maybe you might as well use tap water (Sarcasm)

Having worked in the industrial water treatment industry, you will never go wrong playing safe. Use distilled water as instructed. Clean out your chamber every so often or replace them if your budget allows you to do so. You are breathing the vapor into your lungs, and you have taken enough precautions to use use a humidifier! Use some common sense, please.

Nunya Bizness said:

I'm looking on the CPAP.com website and they have "dishwasher safe" humidifier chambers. I would have never believed you could put one of those in the dishwasher.

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Permalink Reply by ZolliStar on March 5, 2012 at 5:47pm

Thanks for all this great information, Gordon!  Much obliged.

Gordon H said:

More info:

Bleach damages ABS. Bleach does not damage polythene or polypropylene. Bleach damages nylons and acetals. Not too bad with polystyrenes but some damage.

We do not want to dilute the bleach for drinking. Sorry if I gave the impression of using pure bleach. You do need to dilute the bleach. A 1 to 5 solution is effective in killing bacteria and some viruses.

Gordon H said:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_bleach_hurt_plastic

Gordon H said:

Depends on the plastic, I guess. Clorox comes in a plastic container, doesn't it?

ZolliStar said:

Thanks for all the information, Gordon. One quickie question (I don't promise it will be my last!): Isn't bleach a bit of a harsh chemical that could affect the tank's hard plastic?

Gordon H said:

You don't have to pay for special germicides as plain old bleach kills germs just as effectively. The only problem will be the odor and you don't want to breathe those vapors. I am guessing you could then wash out with regular tap water, dry thoroughly with a clean cloth and air dry. Then use your distilled water if there are no more odors from the bleach.

All I have ever done is use distilled water, wiped out the chamber and let the chamber air dry. I may consider replacing the chamber once every year or two for $26 (and see if Medicare will pay for that). I don't use the humidifier in the summer, but I know some people do, so I am only use this 6-7 months a year. Therefore, I can use bleach when I put the humidifier away for the summer and let everything dry out until I install it back on in the fall.

However, that said, if you want to use a germicide, I am a fan of the Beaumont Products product line. They do make the Citrus II Mask Wipes I use daily, and they do make a Hospital Germicide Cleaner both as a spray and a wipe. My wife and I ran a B&B from 1992-2000. We used and sold Citrus Magic Room Deodorizer in our rooms then (don't use it now for some reason), and became a fan of their products. That is another alternative as they do also sell a gallon refill to make it cost effective.

ZolliStar said:

      Question for you, Gordon:  Do you think if I use the germicide every ten days or so, that it will be sufficiently protective?  Here's the germicide that I have in mind:

     http://www.cpap.com/productpage/Control-III-Disinfectant-Germicide-...

Gordon H said:

CPAP.com also says you should replace your humidifier chamber every 6 months, so maybe you might as well use tap water (Sarcasm)

Having worked in the industrial water treatment industry, you will never go wrong playing safe. Use distilled water as instructed. Clean out your chamber every so often or replace them if your budget allows you to do so. You are breathing the vapor into your lungs, and you have taken enough precautions to use use a humidifier! Use some common sense, please.

Nunya Bizness said:

I'm looking on the CPAP.com website and they have "dishwasher safe" humidifier chambers. I would have never believed you could put one of those in the dishwasher.

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Permalink Reply by Shelly Schuett on March 5, 2012 at 7:22pm

Shelly



Richard said:

Which humidifier do you have - many have an optional, dismantle-able tank, but most DMEs push their disposable ones - they make more money replacing them on a regular basis. Look at websites like cpap.com and cpapwholesale.com to find out if you can get a new tank for your unit.

Nunya Bizness said:

My DME said to use vinegar to clean the humidifier. By the way, I really hate the way they make these humidifiers so they are almost impossible to clean.Why can't they make a humidifier that can be taken apart so we can clean the darn things with water and cloth?

    

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Permalink Reply by Shelly Schuett on March 5, 2012 at 7:24pm

Can I se tap water if I have a whole house water pureifier/softner??

Thanks,

Shelly

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