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ZolliStar replied to Fred's discussion CPAP - cure worse than the disease
"I'm wondering: what prompted you to consider whether you have sleep apnea in the first place? Also, waking throughout the night isn't uncommon especially as we (*sigh*) age.  I seem to every 90 minutes or so. This pattern probably…"
Jun 27
ZolliStar replied to ZolliStar's discussion New mouth device on the market
"You can try this website:  http://zyppah.com/ I have a MAD (mandibular advancement device). Dr. Steven Park evaluated my mouth and throat (not everyone can use a MAD, it turns out) and pronounced me a candidate for it. The truth?  I…"
Jun 27
Mary Z replied to ZolliStar's discussion New mouth device on the market
"The link didn't work so me so I couldn't see the product.  I do have experience with a supposedly reliable boil and bite device.  I should know by now I have a small mouth and nothing regular size fits.  I don't think…"
Jun 27
richard graham replied to ZolliStar's discussion New mouth device on the market
"If I thought something could work other than this lousy cpap that would be awesome"
May 22
richard graham posted a status
"I moved and have been sick a lot and can't use cpap because of cough and I'm depressed a lot"
Apr 26
Fred posted a discussion

CPAP - cure worse than the disease

It's ironic that before I was diagnosed with sleep apnea in 2000, I had no problem sleeping 8-9 hours a night. If I did wake up during the night, I had no problem falling right back to sleep, and I wasn't tired during the day.From the first night I brought home the CPAP I haven't had one decent night's sleep. Not one. I don't have any problem falling asleep, but I can't stay asleep. At first I was waking up after 4-5 hours and couldn't get back to sleep for a couple of hours. Now it's more like…See More
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Apr 13
ZolliStar posted a discussion

New mouth device on the market

I've been hearing advertising for this product over the past few days.  It's sold as something to help snoring, but as I look at the information it seems to me that it would work just as well as my mandibular advancement device (MAD).In other words, this could help some of us with sleep apnea.Read about it here.Anybody have any thoughts about this?  See More
Mar 31
99 replied to Mary Z's discussion AHI finally under five.
"Hi Richard I mainly use an empty humidifier as it reduces noise"
Feb 16
richard graham left a comment for richard graham
"When I can afford it I'd like to get New machine with heated tube"
Feb 10
richard graham replied to Mary Z's discussion AHI finally under five.
"I would like to see this forum active again as well. I will be more aware of what's going on"
Feb 10
ZolliStar posted a discussion

If you have trouble falling asleep....

I thought that when I got my sleep apnea diagnosis, that -- at last! -- all my sleep problems had come to an end.Ha!I have trouble falling asleep. Indeed, I rarely feel sleepy at night although I do feel tired. I even cut back on computer at night, etc., etc. (and installed f.lux on my computer) but I still had trouble. Now I'm doing something different: wearing special glasses (Uvex S1933X Skyper Safety Eyewear glasses). They block out the blue -- and they're making a difference! First I tried…See More
Feb 1
99 replied to 99's discussion colloidal silver
"i have purchased some silver the make my own colloidal silver"
Dec 21, 2014
99 replied to 99's discussion colloidal silver
"just add to the distilled water it is antimicrobial eg cleans your machine and is beneficial for keeping you healthy  from bugs germs viruses you get the picture and when you need to clean the humidifier out, put water on your plants the silver…"
Dec 21, 2014
Mary Z left a comment for richard graham
"If the heated tube works with your machine I would try that.  They also make covers for your tubing which may help some.  I think the heated tube may be your answer.  Keep us posted."
Dec 21, 2014
Mary Z left a comment for richard graham
"Richard, some folks just use the humidifier in a Passover mode.  They just don't turn it on, but let the air pick up moisture without heat."
Dec 21, 2014
Mary Z replied to 99's discussion colloidal silver
"99, where have you been?  Do you add the colloidal silver to your humidifier?"
Dec 21, 2014
Mary Z replied to Andy's discussion Resmed S8 AutoSet II - No Longer Collecting Data??
"I Andy, I realize I'm months behind your post.  I have no idea why your S8 would stoop collecting data.  I'm glad to hear  you're having such improvement with your apnea.  I have made great strides since I changed…"
Dec 21, 2014
Mary Z replied to Andy's discussion Resmed S10 AirSense - Anyone have one? Any feedback?
"Andy, just found your post.  I don't know anything about this new machine.  How are you liking your new ResMed?"
Dec 21, 2014
Mary Z left a comment for Kay Day
"Kay, I haven't been around myself and miss the old, active forum."
Dec 21, 2014
Anyone try sleeping at a slight incline, either with a mechanized-adjustable bed, or by piling pillows up to prop yourself up a bit, and if so does this have any impact on number of apnea-hypopnea events-AHI?

Sort of seems logical that this would help in some obstructive sleep apnea cases, no?

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Sleeping on inclined surface or bed could develop further complications with the back.If there is no back pain then it is likely to be developed.Problems with neck would be added to this for sure if the habit has come up.On the contrary, sleeping by side would be more comfortable.
I doubt sleeping on a slight incline would necessarily cause back and neck problems. If anyone's actually done it and has had these problems develop, that's one thing, but until then, i'm keeping an open mind about it, and its potential to perhaps improve the quality of our breathing on CPAP or without CPAP.
I have slept in a recliner for years at least 8 or 9 years and then about 2 or 3 years ago I got an adjustable bed and I sleep in a sitting reclining position,( fowlers) I have had all six sleep studies done in an adjustable bed in a fowlers position except for one, my last one was done in a recliner, because they didn't have an adjustable bed in the room they done the ASV titrations in so they brought in a recliner for me to sleep in! I can not lay flat on my back so because of all my bad disc in my back, so I sleep in a sitting reclining position, I was diagnosed with severe Complex sleep apnea with severe Oxygen desaturations and as I said all my test were done with me in a sitting reclining position, at about a 40 to 45 degrees angle sometimes a little more and with the foot of the bed being raise at a 20 to 25 degree angle. This puts me at about the same angle as when I am standing up, as I cannot stand straight and I am bent over some what!
Mike,
Most of the research that I have done recommends sleeping on your side. The same is true with acid indigestion, which specifically recommends sleeping on your left side. It seems as though this lowers the stomach in relation to the upper body. Most of the recommended lifestyle changes indicate that elevating the head of the bed may help. Be careful of how you accomplish this. I have been a plant manager in the bedding industry for the past 20 years and all of the web sites telling you to put blocks or bricks or telephone books under the headboard have not read their mattress warranty card. Raising the headboard in this manner lifts the center support of the metal base frame off of the floor, so your box spring loses this support mechanism. The smallest problem that this will create is to have your mattress sag in the middle. The worst case scenario will be that the box spring breaks in the middle and by lifting the head of your bed in this manner, you have just voided your mattress warranty.
The best solution that I have located can be found at www.mediwedge.com. This is a foam wedge that fits between the mattress and the box spring and supports the whole mattress.

Good luck with your sleep apnea.

Ed
I find that when I prop up I "choke" when I exhale, just as I did on inhaling before I got my machine. So for me I'm finding that using a thin memory foam pillow and often a U-shaped traveler's neck pillow as well makes for much better sleep with less disturbances.
3 of our lab beds are adjustable. pt's use them all of the time.
How I control my snoring with an anti snoring pillow.
By Oswald Abraham

I am a victim of snoring and sleep apnoea; I have had this condition for a few years now. Ignorance was a factor for not realizing the seriousness of the condition. Way back in 2006 I had two, what I would categorize as quite a severe apneas. This was enough to wake me up gasping and choking, this experience lasted for a few minutes, again I did not take it too seriously until I had a third attack which lasted almost two hours before it settled down.

I soon learnt that the apneas are serious enough to disrupt life completely by way of fatigue during the day, drowsiness, falling asleep while driving etc. There are much more serious conditions that apneas can lead to such as heart attacks, high blood pressure, and hypertension. We sometimes hear of people who die in their sleep. Is it possible it happened because for a severe apnea?

I had a polysomnogram done it was serious enough for my doctor to recommend a CPAP machine. I tried a CPAP for twenty four hours, and hated it, it was too intrusive and I am claustrophobic. I can understand a CPAP has a very specific job to do, which is basically to pump a continuous supply of air and force the air passage clear for breathing normally.

For me the discomfort, the restrictions, the claustrophobic feeling, the dependence was major factors that prevented me from making it a part of my nightly regime. I swapped for an anti snoring pillow; to be precise it is an inclined, lateral positional pillow. This pillow has allowed me to sleep quite comfortably now for about two years; so far I have avoided any mild or serious attacks of apnea like the ones I mentioned above. The pillow allows for sleeping on the left or right lateral position with comfort. Turning from left to right or vice versa is easy. Importantly I have total independence and freedom during sleep.

I also discovered sleeping in an inclined position helps with mild respiratory conditions; I have often heard it helps with cardiovascular problems by reducing the pressure on organs.
This inclined positions coupled with a lateral position helps to prevent or reduce snoring.
The inclined position helps me to breathe easier, and the lateral position reduces or prevents blockage, thus controlling snoring and preventing sleep apnea.

I hope this encourages you to research such products in the market.
Article by Oswald Abraham: http://www.u-sleepwell.com
I didn't have neck problems until I raised the bed to help with the reflux. Now that I have lost lots of weight the reflux has disappeared so made the bed level again and my neck problem is slowly getting better.
I figured it was the tight headgear straps that caused the neck problem. The raised bed seems to make more sense to me when I think about it.
I've found over time that to sleep comfortably without coughing/choking, I need to be sleeping at a ~30deg angle. I have a mechanism that raises/lowers the mattress that makes finding the best angle pretty easy. Without it, I find myself leaning up pillows to achieve it, I can't sleep lying flat. Buying some memoryfoam pillows and a memoryfoam mattress recently seems to have helped a lot with sleep comfort, but I still need that angle. The new pillows have done wonders with resolving the stiff neck and shoulders I was always waking with. I've got in to the habit of sleeping on my side with my arm raised between the mattress and pillow.

Joe Jones said:
I didn't have neck problems until I raised the bed to help with the reflux. Now that I have lost lots of weight the reflux has disappeared so made the bed level again and my neck problem is slowly getting better.
I figured it was the tight headgear straps that caused the neck problem. The raised bed seems to make more sense to me when I think about it.

Hi,

I am the inventor of the U Sleepwell sleep positioning system. It is an Inclined lateral sleep positioning system. I have been using this system for the last 4 years with very good success. take e a loom at my website www.u-sleepwell.com, watch the video on my 'About us' page.

Regards

Oswald

I placed the pillow down to my shoulder blades for a few nights until I noticed low back twinges. Now I just adjust a cervical pillow to prop my neck in slight hyperextension. It seems that if I don't drop my jaw down, my AHI is lower. Since I started this a few months ago, I have had 14 zero AHI readings (pre-treatment AHI was 49 with desats to the 60s). My husband has benefited from this wedge positioning, even sleeping on a slight wedge pillow. However, he side sleeps and changes position frequently, so the wedge does not bother his low back.

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