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99 replied to 99's discussion colloidal silver
"i have purchased some silver the make my own colloidal silver"
14 hours ago
99 replied to 99's discussion colloidal silver
"just add to the distilled water it is antimicrobial eg cleans your machine and is beneficial for keeping you healthy  from bugs germs viruses you get the picture and when you need to clean the humidifier out, put water on your plants the silver…"
14 hours ago
Mary Z left a comment for richard graham
"If the heated tube works with your machine I would try that.  They also make covers for your tubing which may help some.  I think the heated tube may be your answer.  Keep us posted."
17 hours ago
Mary Z left a comment for richard graham
"Richard, some folks just use the humidifier in a Passover mode.  They just don't turn it on, but let the air pick up moisture without heat."
17 hours ago
Mary Z replied to 99's discussion colloidal silver
"99, where have you been?  Do you add the colloidal silver to your humidifier?"
18 hours ago
Mary Z replied to Andy's discussion Resmed S8 AutoSet II - No Longer Collecting Data??
"I Andy, I realize I'm months behind your post.  I have no idea why your S8 would stoop collecting data.  I'm glad to hear  you're having such improvement with your apnea.  I have made great strides since I changed…"
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Mary Z replied to Andy's discussion Resmed S10 AirSense - Anyone have one? Any feedback?
"Andy, just found your post.  I don't know anything about this new machine.  How are you liking your new ResMed?"
18 hours ago
Mary Z left a comment for Kay Day
"Kay, I haven't been around myself and miss the old, active forum."
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Mary Z left a comment for richard graham
"Hi Richard,  I don't bother with a humidifier.  Someone on the forum suggested not using it and I'm a lot less congested without it.  A good AHI is under 5.  I use the Wisp and have been since it came out.  I think…"
18 hours ago
hifay replied to Mary Z's discussion Sleep apnea increases risk of osteoporosis
"Always something. Thanks for the information."
19 hours ago
99 posted a discussion

colloidal silver

a humidifier can be used with colloidal silverthis can keep the humidifier clean for day maybe weeks or longer without the need to clean the humidifiersilver colloidal is antimicrobial and you could just top up your humidifier without cleaning and at the same time treat your bodyor you just put silver on it own into the humidifierSee More
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richard graham posted a status
"I feel like the humidifier is making me feel yucky and I'm waking up hacking and having to clear my throat a lot for a while."
Nov 3
richard graham posted a discussion

what's a good AHI?

I've been using and auto and it says my AHI HAS been between 4 and 6 and wondering what's a good range.
Nov 2
Andy posted a discussion

Resmed S10 AirSense - Anyone have one? Any feedback?

Hi All,I've just ordered a new Resmed S10 AirSense, and I was wondering if anyone here has used one?Any information or input would be appreciated!See More
Sep 29
Andy replied to Andy's discussion Resmed S8 AutoSet II - No Longer Collecting Data??
"Hi All, Well, I went to the sleep doc today, and he ordered a new S10 for me! I still don't know why my S8 is not tracking data anymore. Anyone have any ideas?"
Sep 29
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liz4cps commented on liz4cps's group Prince William Co, VA support group
"Just found they have a Facebook for the REMedy event, 1st Class Sleep REMedy Wellness Health Fair."
Sep 25
liz4cps commented on liz4cps's group Prince William Co, VA support group
"Reminder: REMedy event is this Saturday, 10 am to 2pm.  Topics include: Nutrition and Weight Management with Sarah Kelly, Registered Nutritionist/Dietitian Oral Appliance Therapy for Sleep Apnea with Drs. Rena Vakay & Lara…"
Sep 25
Kay Day left a comment for Kay Day
"September 1, 2014 My apologies to Sleep Guide for not participating in a long time. In January 2012 I started classes at the local community college (my husband is an instructor there, and my tuition is refunded when my grades are above a C. My…"
Sep 1
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Sleep apnea increases risk of osteoporosis

Sleep apnea/osteoporosis study finds “increased” health riskA recently published study may have found a connection between obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) and osteoporosis, marking yet another health…See More
Aug 23
learned from Dr. Guilleminault at Stanford today that low blood pressure corresponds with sleep apnea as well as high blood pressure. Knew all about the high blood pressure sleep apnea conection, which results from lack of oxygen in the system. Didn't know about the low blood pressure sleep apnea connection, which Guilleminault says stems from negative pressure that builds up in the chest cavity when the body's "motor" for getting air into the lungs, which is the diaphragm, fails to get the air into the body due to an obstruction, in my wife's case in her nasal passage.

Anyone else have low blood pressure issues or otherwise familiar with this phenomenon? I don't think this is either well document or well understood, so i wouldn't be surprised if we can't get anyone with any knowledge about this.

Tags: Guilleminault, apnea, blood, low, pressure, sleep, stanford

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Wow, that's interesting. I don't have badly low bp, but i have very good bp (which always surprises docs I think who expect it to be awful because I'm heavy).

Is this low bp all the time? Or something where the bp drops down really scary low while the person is sleeping?
Dr. Guilleminault has written a lot of papers on people with upper airway resistance syndrome and low blood pressure. There are other studies that show mostly young, thin women with "orthostatic intolerance" who get dizzy or light-headed when they stand up too quickly. They also tend to have cold hands or feet, and various nasal/sinus/headache issues. Interestingly, what I find is that as they age and slowly gain weight, the low BP becomes normal, and the cold hands get better, but later as they gain more weight (or after menopause in women), they'll have high blood pressure. Many young thin people with low blood pressure have at least one parent that have high blood pressure. I don't remember the exact mechanism, but I vaguely remember that it has to do with autonomic dysfunction. My wife has this too.
Yep, that was me, my entire life - except for dizzy and/or light headed. Until COPD. Now my BP tends to run in "normal" ranges. Still no problem w/high BP. Only the last 6 months weight gain - but the Crohn's could account for the lack of weight gain.
in my wife's case, it's chronically low blood pressure, not just during sleep, which is worst just when she gets up in the morning.

amott1973 said:
Wow, that's interesting. I don't have badly low bp, but i have very good bp (which always surprises docs I think who expect it to be awful because I'm heavy).

Is this low bp all the time? Or something where the bp drops down really scary low while the person is sleeping?
sure enough, Dr. Park, my wife indeed has "cold hands and feet, and various nasal/sinus/headache issues." And Dr. Guilleminault also noted that as we age and we put on more weight, the apnea gets worse, as does the sp02, which leads someone with low blood pressure to then have high blood pressure. if anyone's interested in doing a study, maybe i can convince my wife to be a subject ;-)

Steven Y. Park, MD said:
Dr. Guilleminault has written a lot of papers on people with upper airway resistance syndrome and low blood pressure. There are other studies that show mostly young, thin women with "orthostatic intolerance" who get dizzy or light-headed when they stand up too quickly. They also tend to have cold hands or feet, and various nasal/sinus/headache issues. Interestingly, what I find is that as they age and slowly gain weight, the low BP becomes normal, and the cold hands get better, but later as they gain more weight (or after menopause in women), they'll have high blood pressure. Many young thin people with low blood pressure have at least one parent that have high blood pressure. I don't remember the exact mechanism, but I vaguely remember that it has to do with autonomic dysfunction. My wife has this too.

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