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After twenty-five years of wearing a CPAP machine and a lifetime of struggling with sleep issues, I've learned a few things about sleep hygiene. One thing I am still tinkering with is vitamin consumption and how it affects the quality of my sleep. For most of my life I have been General Nutrition's best customer. If there is such a thing as a vitamin addict then that's what I am / was. At one time in my twenty's, I was popping upwards of forty types of vitamins a day. That's probably why my disco partying days didn't kill me back then. :) I was certainly burning up the dance floor as well as the proverbial candle at both ends. Funny - back then I was going to great lengths to stay awake all night so I could party. Now, I'm fighting for my life for a good night's sleep... My how times have changed!
But - the vitamin habit persisted throughout the years. I found a combination of three supplements that pretty much guaranteed me I was going to sleep for 14 solid hours. ( fourteen... that's NOT a typo )

2,000 units of vitamin C
2,000 units of Calcium
2 ea 500 mg aspirins.

Taken an hour or so after supper, I would sleep like a dead woman. Still don't understand why. This worked great until the day I took the two aspirin and went into shock - again. So, now I'm officially listed as allergic to aspirin, penicillin, and ibuprofen.

One other vitamin that affects my sleep is a B-vitamin complex tablet. This one, though, I had to take at noon to get the bulk of it out of my system before bedtime. Once again, if I took one, I could easily sleep for 10 straight hours. If taken in the evening, however, it will keep you up at night.

You guys on this sight have taught me more in the few weeks I have been registered here than my "lovely" sleep doctors have in 25 years. I hope sharing some of my experiences will help others just as much. Thank-you!

Kate

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Check out some of the newest research on D3.  It is fast becoming the wonder drug of the century.  Because it is fat soluble, it accumulates in your system and high doses of calcium will aggravate that process to a toxic level.  You never used to have to worry about taking a d3 supplement since vitamin D is always added to milk.  Now they are starting to think it might have all kinds of benefits in higher doses. If you get those cheapie, clear plastic throw away cups, you can actually see the sediment. A little is perfectly normal.  Weird test  but I don't do doctors unless I'm dying. I'm a firm believer in educated self-reliance.  And the key word here is "educated".  I was bitten by a nasty spider once, right on the waistband of my jeans.  I did a ton of research and discovered a way to heal myself.  The wound looked like a brown recluse bite.  The resulting hole left in my gut by the rotting tissue was pretty scary but - As long as I kept it clean and dry,  I had just as good a chance at beating that mess as a very expensive trip to the doctor.  And I did win.  that was two years ago.  The ONLY thing a Dr could have done for me that I could not do myself was the pain management.  The whole ordeal was excruciating.  but it's amazing what a good bottle of Black Velvet whiskey can do in that department. LOL

       Black Velvet can handle more than pain management. It celebrates with you when you're glad, commiserates with you when you're sad, keeps you company when you read the paper or a book -- without interrupting you with its opinions and comments -- and it....

      Oh, shucks!  I don't want to think about it especially since I can't drink at this hour. The only thing Black Velvet doesn't do is shoo away sleep apnea if taken just before bedtime!

Kate said:

Check out some of the newest research on D3.  It is fast becoming the wonder drug of the century.  Because it is fat soluble, it accumulates in your system and high doses of calcium will aggravate that process to a toxic level.  You never used to have to worry about taking a d3 supplement since vitamin D is always added to milk.  Now they are starting to think it might have all kinds of benefits in higher doses. If you get those cheapie, clear plastic throw away cups, you can actually see the sediment. A little is perfectly normal.  Weird test  but I don't do doctors unless I'm dying. I'm a firm believer in educated self-reliance.  And the key word here is "educated".  I was bitten by a nasty spider once, right on the waistband of my jeans.  I did a ton of research and discovered a way to heal myself.  The wound looked like a brown recluse bite.  The resulting hole left in my gut by the rotting tissue was pretty scary but - As long as I kept it clean and dry,  I had just as good a chance at beating that mess as a very expensive trip to the doctor.  And I did win.  that was two years ago.  The ONLY thing a Dr could have done for me that I could not do myself was the pain management.  The whole ordeal was excruciating.  but it's amazing what a good bottle of Black Velvet whiskey can do in that department. LOL

ROTFLMBO!  You are SO right!  It is my go-to medicinal for a number of things.  And as smooth as it gets!   Funny, it's the ONLY kind of alcohol that doesn't mess up my sleep.  Think I'll have another!  LOL

     Black Velvet doesn't mess up your sleep?  Maybe this single response is the repayment for all my hours on this site!

Kate said:

ROTFLMBO!  You are SO right!  It is my go-to medicinal for a number of things.  And as smooth as it gets!   Funny, it's the ONLY kind of alcohol that doesn't mess up my sleep.  Think I'll have another!  LOL

Well, FWIW, wine messes with my sleep and adds a bit of reflux sometimes, but gin and tonic doesn't. When I have nothing at all to drink at night it makes no different in my sleep quality either. I'm not sure about scotch since I don't have it very often.

Studying D3 and calcium is a research chore for today. I may be back asking you for a good link on that if I have no luck. I do take calcium but it can't be more than 1,000. I'm not a milk drinker or cheese eater so I'm not getting it from dairy.

OK, I'm having trouble finding a link about the dangers of calcium and D3. Could you provide one?

I know my D levels are around 30 even when I take 2-4000 units a day and the usual amount of calcium supps (1000-1200 a day.) I've never had kidney stones, knock on wood it stays that way.

Do you think all D3 supps are bad even when one has a low D3 level? Incidentally, an endocrinologist had me taking 50,000 units of D2 *A DAY* for several months and my level finally got up to 70. I also felt much better. When I went back to normal levels of D2 or D3 it dropped right back to between 24 and 30 and my energy level dropped and never really came back.  Long story short, everyone is different but I'd sure appreciate your posting a link to what you're saying. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

     An endocrinologist whom I saw because I thought there might be a hormonal basis to my constant wakings throughout the night -- like every other medical professional, he missed the real diagnosis of OSA -- noted one problem: very low Vitamin D level.

     I'm mindful of that problem/risk. As such, I've been taking Vitamin D ever since, using this product: http://www.drhoffman.com/page.cfm/381

      Hope this helps someone.

I think that's the only thing they look for, frankly!

I googled "vitamin D toxic calcium"  and it turns up a whole host of articles.  Check them out.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=hypercalcemia&so...

Here's one that seems pretty reliable linking too much calcium supplements with too much vitamin D supplements.

       I contacted a nutritionist friend who really knows her stuff.

       My friend is keenly interested in magnesium and believes most people are deficient in this mineral. She urged me to encourage all of you to visit www.mgwater.com   and learn more about the mineral.

       She is also keen on this book (which can be downloaded for free):
http://www.mgwater.com/rodtitle.shtml

       My friend highly recommends this blog:  http://drcarolyndean.com/

       My nutritionist friend also urged me to read Dr. Dean's books on magnesium as well as other magnesium-related book. Several are listed on Dr. Dean's site:  http://drcarolyndean.com/natural-health-books-by-dr-dean/

      My friend the nutritionist just sent me this note: "If you want to know why I asked Perlmutter to mention magnesium in neurology, please see this free, recentebook,which is a compilation from scientists all over the world."

 



ZolliStar said:

       I contacted a nutritionist friend who really knows her stuff.

       My friend is keenly interested in magnesium and believes most people are deficient in this mineral. She urged me to encourage all of you to visit www.mgwater.com   and learn more about the mineral.

       She is also keen on this book (which can be downloaded for free):
http://www.mgwater.com/rodtitle.shtml

       My friend highly recommends this blog:  http://drcarolyndean.com/

       My nutritionist friend also urged me to read Dr. Dean's books on magnesium as well as other magnesium-related book. Several are listed on Dr. Dean's site:  http://drcarolyndean.com/natural-health-books-by-dr-dean/

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