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Permalink Reply by Todd Loren Sinclair on December 9, 2010 at 1:53pm

You can view the illustrated instruction for thesecpap mask liners at cpapxchange.com



Patricia A Davis said:

I had the same problem and I found these full mask liners at RemZzzs CPAP Mask Liners. They are great. My CPAP supplier doesn't carry them but you can order them.

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Permalink Reply by Tom Cannon on December 9, 2010 at 2:04pm

Diane Dennis said:

Hi!

I wish I had answers but I don't; I have the same problem, and my leaks are bad enough that the sound wakes me up, usually on my left cheek (i also get minimal leaks where it blows softly into my eyes even though I have the nose adjustment all the way "down").

I am at pressure 22. I have tried every mask that I have been able to and I eventually ended up with the Comfort Gel Full Face Mask.

I had terrible troubles with the bridge of my nose (the people who designed it need to wear it for a couple weeks) so I started using the little gel pad thingies that go across the bridge of my nose and up between my eyes if you will.

That helped with the nose bridge problem but when the mask does leak and I lift it to adjust it, then the nose thing gets blown out of position and then the leaks become worse. So I tightened the straps, and then tightened them again, and that ended up negating the positive effects of the nose gel pad thingie (not to mention there were now huge creases in my forehead, I have enough wrinkles up there already thank you!). And even with the straps tightened it still leaked. =\

So last night I put the straps back to what they're supposed to be and of course I had leaks, and of course when I lifted the mask to adjust it the nose gel pad shifted and finally this morning I just took it off and got up early.

I'm not a designer of these masks so I don't know if my idea would work but what if the makers of these masks put a center strap in addition to the top and bottom? It should be simple to do if they re-engineered the masks, changed the mold so that there are receptables on each side of the mask (in the center between the top and bottom receptacles) for the middle strap to click into, and changed the strap (head gear?) to have the third strap in the middle that would come from the back just like the top and bottom straps do, and snap into the mask.

Doesn't it seem like that would cut down on leaks? And while they're at it, they could fix the nose part of the Gel mask so that it doesn't break down the bridge of a person's nose (a very common problem with this mask, from what I've read; again, the designers of these masks need to wear them for a couple weeks).

Anyhow, I may try the silicone ear plug idea from Mary Z, and I'll check out the link provided by birdshell and I'll check out the Quietus liners (although I have the RemZzzs mask lines that I'll try again.

Thanks everybody!!
Diane

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Permalink Reply by Tom Cannon on December 9, 2010 at 2:05pm

Hi Diane - Please tell me more about the get thingy you use on the bridge of you nose; is their a brand name, and where do you buy them?

THanks, Tom

Diane Dennis said:

Hi!

I wish I had answers but I don't; I have the same problem, and my leaks are bad enough that the sound wakes me up, usually on my left cheek (i also get minimal leaks where it blows softly into my eyes even though I have the nose adjustment all the way "down").

I am at pressure 22. I have tried every mask that I have been able to and I eventually ended up with the Comfort Gel Full Face Mask.

I had terrible troubles with the bridge of my nose (the people who designed it need to wear it for a couple weeks) so I started using the little gel pad thingies that go across the bridge of my nose and up between my eyes if you will.

That helped with the nose bridge problem but when the mask does leak and I lift it to adjust it, then the nose thing gets blown out of position and then the leaks become worse. So I tightened the straps, and then tightened them again, and that ended up negating the positive effects of the nose gel pad thingie (not to mention there were now huge creases in my forehead, I have enough wrinkles up there already thank you!). And even with the straps tightened it still leaked. =\

So last night I put the straps back to what they're supposed to be and of course I had leaks, and of course when I lifted the mask to adjust it the nose gel pad shifted and finally this morning I just took it off and got up early.

I'm not a designer of these masks so I don't know if my idea would work but what if the makers of these masks put a center strap in addition to the top and bottom? It should be simple to do if they re-engineered the masks, changed the mold so that there are receptables on each side of the mask (in the center between the top and bottom receptacles) for the middle strap to click into, and changed the strap (head gear?) to have the third strap in the middle that would come from the back just like the top and bottom straps do, and snap into the mask.

Doesn't it seem like that would cut down on leaks? And while they're at it, they could fix the nose part of the Gel mask so that it doesn't break down the bridge of a person's nose (a very common problem with this mask, from what I've read; again, the designers of these masks need to wear them for a couple weeks).

Anyhow, I may try the silicone ear plug idea from Mary Z, and I'll check out the link provided by birdshell and I'll check out the Quietus liners (although I have the RemZzzs mask lines that I'll try again.

Thanks everybody!!
Diane

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Permalink Reply by Janknitz on December 9, 2010 at 5:27pm

If you know how to adjust your machine pressure (and you should), try setting your machine at the highest pressure you have during the night and then adjusting your mask to stop leaking. Then return it to the regular settings, but don't change the mask settings.

This is a problem for people that ramp or have an auto--you adjust it at a low pressure and it "blows out" as the pressure increases. If you have a ResMed S9, the "mask fit" feature is designed to allow you to fit the mask at the highest set pressure just for this reason.

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Permalink Reply by Diane Dennis on December 9, 2010 at 5:43pm

Hi Tom!

 

They are "Sleep Comfort Care Pads for CPAP & BiPAP Masks" and they are available at DirectHomeMedical.com :o)

 

I hope this helps!!

Diane

Tom Cannon said:

Hi Diane - Please tell me more about the get thingy you use on the bridge of you nose; is their a brand name, and where do you buy them?

THanks, Tom

Diane Dennis said:

Hi!

I wish I had answers but I don't; I have the same problem, and my leaks are bad enough that the sound wakes me up, usually on my left cheek (i also get minimal leaks where it blows softly into my eyes even though I have the nose adjustment all the way "down").

I am at pressure 22. I have tried every mask that I have been able to and I eventually ended up with the Comfort Gel Full Face Mask.

I had terrible troubles with the bridge of my nose (the people who designed it need to wear it for a couple weeks) so I started using the little gel pad thingies that go across the bridge of my nose and up between my eyes if you will.

That helped with the nose bridge problem but when the mask does leak and I lift it to adjust it, then the nose thing gets blown out of position and then the leaks become worse. So I tightened the straps, and then tightened them again, and that ended up negating the positive effects of the nose gel pad thingie (not to mention there were now huge creases in my forehead, I have enough wrinkles up there already thank you!). And even with the straps tightened it still leaked. =\

So last night I put the straps back to what they're supposed to be and of course I had leaks, and of course when I lifted the mask to adjust it the nose gel pad shifted and finally this morning I just took it off and got up early.

I'm not a designer of these masks so I don't know if my idea would work but what if the makers of these masks put a center strap in addition to the top and bottom? It should be simple to do if they re-engineered the masks, changed the mold so that there are receptables on each side of the mask (in the center between the top and bottom receptacles) for the middle strap to click into, and changed the strap (head gear?) to have the third strap in the middle that would come from the back just like the top and bottom straps do, and snap into the mask.

Doesn't it seem like that would cut down on leaks? And while they're at it, they could fix the nose part of the Gel mask so that it doesn't break down the bridge of a person's nose (a very common problem with this mask, from what I've read; again, the designers of these masks need to wear them for a couple weeks).

Anyhow, I may try the silicone ear plug idea from Mary Z, and I'll check out the link provided by birdshell and I'll check out the Quietus liners (although I have the RemZzzs mask lines that I'll try again.

Thanks everybody!!
Diane

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Permalink Reply by birdshell on December 9, 2010 at 6:25pm

Some of the older masks did have such a center strap.

 

I still wonder why we can get custom fitted ski boots, but not a custom fitted mask?  Someone in Africa or something had a short time doing so, but I never heard much about their custom fitting successes, just that they had them (a few years ago).

 

And while we are on this subject, why does my miner-style headlamp fit so well and yet...we cannot seem to find anything that stays on for sleep?  By golly, maybe we need a 40 point headgear/strap connection or a stocking cap pull on...just came to me!

 

I'm NOT holding my breath until these are actually in production, especially at night.  I'll continue the search and get as much high-quality sleep as I can...with mouth closed and the least annoying mask.  ;)

 

Karen

 

 

Diane Dennis said:

Hi Tom!

 

They are "Sleep Comfort Care Pads for CPAP & BiPAP Masks" and they are available at DirectHomeMedical.com :o)

 

I hope this helps!!

Diane

Tom Cannon said:

Hi Diane - Please tell me more about the get thingy you use on the bridge of you nose; is their a brand name, and where do you buy them?

THanks, Tom

Diane Dennis said:

Hi!

I wish I had answers but I don't; I have the same problem, and my leaks are bad enough that the sound wakes me up, usually on my left cheek (i also get minimal leaks where it blows softly into my eyes even though I have the nose adjustment all the way "down").

I am at pressure 22. I have tried every mask that I have been able to and I eventually ended up with the Comfort Gel Full Face Mask.

I had terrible troubles with the bridge of my nose (the people who designed it need to wear it for a couple weeks) so I started using the little gel pad thingies that go across the bridge of my nose and up between my eyes if you will.

That helped with the nose bridge problem but when the mask does leak and I lift it to adjust it, then the nose thing gets blown out of position and then the leaks become worse. So I tightened the straps, and then tightened them again, and that ended up negating the positive effects of the nose gel pad thingie (not to mention there were now huge creases in my forehead, I have enough wrinkles up there already thank you!). And even with the straps tightened it still leaked. =\

So last night I put the straps back to what they're supposed to be and of course I had leaks, and of course when I lifted the mask to adjust it the nose gel pad shifted and finally this morning I just took it off and got up early.

I'm not a designer of these masks so I don't know if my idea would work but what if the makers of these masks put a center strap in addition to the top and bottom? It should be simple to do if they re-engineered the masks, changed the mold so that there are receptables on each side of the mask (in the center between the top and bottom receptacles) for the middle strap to click into, and changed the strap (head gear?) to have the third strap in the middle that would come from the back just like the top and bottom straps do, and snap into the mask.

Doesn't it seem like that would cut down on leaks? And while they're at it, they could fix the nose part of the Gel mask so that it doesn't break down the bridge of a person's nose (a very common problem with this mask, from what I've read; again, the designers of these masks need to wear them for a couple weeks).

Anyhow, I may try the silicone ear plug idea from Mary Z, and I'll check out the link provided by birdshell and I'll check out the Quietus liners (although I have the RemZzzs mask lines that I'll try again.

Thanks everybody!!
Diane

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Permalink Reply by Johnm2 on December 9, 2010 at 8:03pm

Give the Padacheek mask liner a try. I had problems with mask leaks with my full face mask until I tried this and started sleeping through the night again.

 

http://www.padacheek.com/PAC_Maskliners.html

 

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Permalink Reply by Kevin Hill on December 9, 2010 at 8:24pm

What Brand/Model mask are you trying to use?  Did you have it professionaly fit or did they just hand it to you?  The Brand and Model of mask need to be matched to the shape of your face.  We find better fits for long, thin faces vs short, round faces with different masks -  Some brands fit almost any face whereas others can be narrow in range.  Others do not do well at high pressures - say over 16 cmH2O.  I know of at least one doctor/lab that feels oral leaks are caused by to low of a pressure and make pressure adjustments to correct - I'm not so sure, since I am on autotitrate and need to use a chin strap.  I have seen patients that need both a chin strap AND the full face (jaw flopped down and created a big leak)

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Permalink Reply by Jenny Foerst on December 9, 2010 at 9:43pm

John Mortonson said:

Give the Padacheek mask liner a try. I had problems with mask leaks with my full face mask until I tried this and started sleeping through the night again.

 

http://www.padacheek.com/PAC_Maskliners.html

 I believe padacheek also has soft straps you can buy to hold the mask on in middle of the mask.  I haven't tried it, but I use the soft padding for the forehead because the Quatro was digging into my forehead and giving me new wrinkles.  The Quatro fitted poorly and leaked no matter what I did.  I got to take home a Comfort Gel after my second sleep study, and it almost never leaks. It doesn't bother my forehead, either, but it does tend to rub my nose raw, so I need to pay a visit to padacheek myself.  None of the masks seem to fit me correctly, even this one.

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Permalink Reply by Barry Winton on December 9, 2010 at 9:51pm

Same problem -- I changed to a different size mask which helped the problem

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Permalink Reply by Darillyn Patterson on December 9, 2010 at 10:57pm

Thank God, I am able to sleep right through the night.  My problem is with the air leaking at the beginning, shortly after going to bed.

Bill Pilgrim said:

Hello Danilyn, I am very interested in your problem. I have had a similar problem for years. I have always had a full face mask and have omly ever had one mask that would go anywhere near fitting. My mask is an old version of ResMed full face. I am definitely a mouth breather, whose mouth will not stay closed even with a chin strap. I need so much strap pressure to reduce leaks that it becomes painful across the bridge of my nose and other parts of my face. I often remove it through the night, because I waken with the mask hurting. I have progressed to a VPAP Adapt as it is obvious after many years that I have Complex Apnea. I don't know just how or if this affects pressures, but I still waken frequently after a couple of hours sleep. I wish I could give you an answer.
Regards, Bill.

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Permalink Reply by Darillyn Patterson on December 9, 2010 at 10:57pm

Thanks, Todd.  I'll have to check it out.

Todd Loren Sinclair said:

You can view the illustrated instruction for thesecpap mask liners at cpapxchange.com



Patricia A Davis said:

I had the same problem and I found these full mask liners at RemZzzs CPAP Mask Liners. They are great. My CPAP supplier doesn't carry them but you can order them.

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