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richard graham posted a status
"I feel like the humidifier is making me feel yucky and I'm waking up hacking and having to clear my throat a lot for a while."
Nov 3
richard graham posted a discussion

what's a good AHI?

I've been using and auto and it says my AHI HAS been between 4 and 6 and wondering what's a good range.
Nov 2
Andy posted a discussion

Resmed S10 AirSense - Anyone have one? Any feedback?

Hi All,I've just ordered a new Resmed S10 AirSense, and I was wondering if anyone here has used one?Any information or input would be appreciated!See More
Sep 29
Andy replied to Andy's discussion Resmed S8 AutoSet II - No Longer Collecting Data??
"Hi All, Well, I went to the sleep doc today, and he ordered a new S10 for me! I still don't know why my S8 is not tracking data anymore. Anyone have any ideas?"
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liz4cps commented on liz4cps's group Prince William Co, VA support group
"Just found they have a Facebook for the REMedy event, 1st Class Sleep REMedy Wellness Health Fair."
Sep 25
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"Reminder: REMedy event is this Saturday, 10 am to 2pm.  Topics include: Nutrition and Weight Management with Sarah Kelly, Registered Nutritionist/Dietitian Oral Appliance Therapy for Sleep Apnea with Drs. Rena Vakay & Lara…"
Sep 25
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"September 1, 2014 My apologies to Sleep Guide for not participating in a long time. In January 2012 I started classes at the local community college (my husband is an instructor there, and my tuition is refunded when my grades are above a C. My…"
Sep 1
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Sleep apnea increases risk of osteoporosis

Sleep apnea/osteoporosis study finds “increased” health riskA recently published study may have found a connection between obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) and osteoporosis, marking yet another health…See More
Aug 23
Mary Z replied to ZolliStar's discussion Non-invasion approach that can relieve mild sleep apnea
"Hi ZolliStar, I've heard before that speech therapy, or singing lessons can help sleep apnea.  The problem at that time was there was no way to determine which exercises help.  Getting research done, rather than anecdotal would be…"
Jul 28
ZolliStar posted a discussion

Non-invasion approach that can relieve mild sleep apnea

Some people report that singing -- singing! -- really helps their sleep apnea. Dr. Stephen Park said that myology (which are exercises to strengthen muscles around the inside of one's mouth area) helps some. I think singing would be better.  If you read all the FAQs on this (click below), I think you'll agree that it makes sense for some. Maybe you.http://www.singingforsnorers.com/index.htmSee More
Jul 28
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Jul 20
liz4cps commented on liz4cps's group Prince William Co, VA support group
"I talked to Kimberlie at the Novant Sleep lab last week (at Prince William Hospital) and she said they would not be holding any meetings this year but are planning to start holding meetings again next year.  I'll let you know when we have…"
Jul 14
richard graham posted a status
"I just have mask called the Wisp. Hope it works. Anybody have experience with it. I have an ultra mirage nasal mask and get leaks at brid"
Jul 9
Andy posted a discussion

Resmed S8 AutoSet II - No Longer Collecting Data??

Hi All,First off, my apologies for not checking in for a long time.I've been using my Resmed S8 AutoSet II for almost 3 years! I feel great, have lost almost 30 lbs, am no longer sleepy during the day, sleep through the night, and have my short-term memory back.Yay!I've told my doctors that I'm the "poster child" for Sleep Apnea and CPAPs! It's been, and continues to be, such an amazing experience that I want everyone to know!Everything has been going well in CPAP-land, but in the last few…See More
Jul 7
hifay replied to richard graham's discussion mouth breathing
"What type of chin straps?"
Jul 6
Ginny Edmundson replied to Ginny Edmundson's discussion Scheduled for evaluation and possible procedure next day
"No real improvement in sleep study.  Just not having to use cervical neck color.  What a bummer. Surgeon wants another sleep study in about a month or so (home one) Not sure if will do or not. "
Jun 22
Mary Z replied to Ginny Edmundson's discussion Scheduled for evaluation and possible procedure next day
"Ginny, how are you doing after the tongue procedure?"
Jun 22
Mary Z posted a discussion

AHI finally under five.

I have been on CPAP since March 2008 and had a good AHI when I started therapy (under 5).Then my AHI started getting worse- for a while it stayed in the 20's, then we got it to the high teens.  Nothing we did would help.  My doctor said it was due to the meds I take.  For a couple of years I just tolerated the high AHI.  I did another sleep study and changed to an ASV machine.  For two years I still had a AHI around 11-13.  Then all of a sudden - a month ago I noticed my AHI was running five or…See More
Jun 22
ZolliStar replied to richard graham's discussion mouth breathing
"FWIW, I've been alternating between my mouth device and my APAP. I haven't used humidity at all when I use the APAP -- and don't miss it, either. "
Jun 14
Would like your recommendation for best, most comfortable mask for mouth breathers or for those that tend to sleep with their mouth open.

I currently use a Comfort Full II mask which I find terribly uncomfortable, though mine might be a bit too large for my face, but even if it was smaller I believe I would still find it uncomfortable since I can't stand anything that weights more than my thin, light-framed glasses on my face for long periods.

Thanks,
Sonia


See my other post that shows pictures of my uncomfortable Comfort Full II mask:
http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/is-my-mask-too-big

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I would change your perspective on this question a bit: why are you mouth breathing? breathing through the mouth is sub-optimal as there are many benefits to breathing through your nose. also, breathing through your mouth tends to by a symptom of something wrong with your nose that should be corrected. do you have allergies? sinus problems? my take is you should see an ENT (Dr. Park or someone like that) and work with that physician to fix your nose so that you can breathe out of it. Then you will have a clearer path to effective CPAP treatment, using a less bulky, more comfortable mask than the full face mask. Make sense?
Hi welcome to sleep guide. I am a nose and mouth breather. I use the liberty hybrid mask. I have used a mirage quatro full face, the oracle mouth only mask and the opus nose mask. Out of the 4 masks I have tried I have had the best success with the liberty.

I had a severe nose sore that infected a large portion of my face, even my eyes swelled shut, caused by the mirage quatro.
It took several weeks for my nose to heal. to say the least this is not my favorite mask.

I hardly know that i am wearing the liberty mask. I have been using it about 3 weeks. I hope this helps.

Carl
It is possible that your pressures are not where they should be. Pressure that is to high or low can cause mouth leaks.
HI Sonia. I'm historically a mouth-breather, both at night and during the day. I'm just chronically stuffy and have a hard time getting enough air without breathing through my mouth. That said though, I found that using a nasal pillow mask (first the Swift, then Swift II, then Swift LX, and now the Swift FX) I actually DON'T breathe though my mouth at night anymore. I actually have a chinstrap (somewhere) because I was so sure I'd need it, but I guess with the constant air pressure from the nasal pillow mask it gets enough air up there that I don't feel the need to breathe through my mouth.

You had mentioned that it's hard for you to get used to anything heavy on your face. I have the same thing. Wearing sunglasses is even uncomfortable unless they're really really lightweight. I have to say the new Swift FX, just got it on Friday, is even less obtrusive than the other Swift models. I can still take a drink or read easily with it on. I also found that nasal masks and full face masks (cause I've tried a bunch!) hit some pressure points right near my nose over my sinuses that make them unbearable to me.

I guess the real point is to keep trying different masks till you find one that works for you. My stepmother in law went through something like 6-10 masks at first to get one that would work for her. She drove her DME crazy, but she kept at it and did find one. She was a good inspiration for me when it came time for my to get on CPAP.

One other thing, my husband uses a full face mask. He has some anatomical things that make it mandatory for him. I noticed though that his has the bottom part of the mask hitting right below his mouth, kind of in that dent between your lower lip and chin. Maybe not all full face masks are supposed to be there, but you're right in that yours could be too big.

Also, when I'm looking around at masks I like to use cpap.com as they have tons of reviews and lots of good pictures of each mask from different angles. I feel like I get a good feel for the masks' strengths and weaknesses from the reviews too.

Good luck!
Hi Mike,

I don't choose to breathe through my mouth. My mouth opens every night when I relax enough to sleep. Even with my CPAP's humidifier I still need to drink water at least a couple of times during the night to relieve my dry mouth and throat. I think one reason my mouth opens is that my lower jaw is not aligned with my upper jaw, it's more pushed back, causing my mouth to open when I'm laying down and relaxed.

Also, my nose usually feels congested. I've always, for as long as I remember, have had trouble breathing well, but have never had Asthma and don't think I have real allergies, like to pollen since my eyes don't water and don't get runny or itchy nose. My nasal passage and nostrils have always felt swollen or stuffed up or not big enough to allow enough air. I spend a great deal of time trying to clear my nose, but there's usually nothing there to clear.

I will take your suggestion to see a nose specialist.

Hoping that by learning better breathing and getting a new, more comfortable mask will help me breathe better.

Thanks for your reply and suggestions.

Sonia


Mike said:
I would change your perspective on this question a bit: why are you mouth breathing? breathing through the mouth is sub-optimal as there are many benefits to breathing through your nose. also, breathing through your mouth tends to by a symptom of something wrong with your nose that should be corrected. do you have allergies? sinus problems? my take is you should see an ENT (Dr. Park or someone like that) and work with that physician to fix your nose so that you can breathe out of it. Then you will have a clearer path to effective CPAP treatment, using a less bulky, more comfortable mask than the full face mask. Make sense?
Hi Carl,

Thanks for the welcome and the mask suggestions. I'm glad you were able to find a good, comfortable mask. I will look for information on the Liberty Hybrid mask you like.

Be well,

Sonia


Carl Speas said:
Hi welcome to sleep guide. I am a nose and mouth breather. I use the liberty hybrid mask. I have used a mirage quatro full face, the oracle mouth only mask and the opus nose mask. Out of the 4 masks I have tried I have had the best success with the liberty.

I had a severe nose sore that infected a large portion of my face, even my eyes swelled shut, caused by the mirage quatro.
It took several weeks for my nose to heal. to say the least this is not my favorite mask.

I hardly know that i am wearing the liberty mask. I have been using it about 3 weeks. I hope this helps.

Carl
Hi amott,

I don't breathe through my mouth while I'm awake, it's only when I'm sleeping and my mouth opens. That's the reason I picked a full mask instead of the small nasal one. As a little girl I was told enough times to close my mouth and keep it close for it to had become a habit, so even though my lower jaw is not aligned with my upper jaw I learned to push my chin and lower jaw forward to keep my mouth close while I'm awake. But since my muscles relaxed during sleep it's easy for my mouth to open when I'm sleeping, especially if I'm lying on my back. And though I've always felt my nose is stuffy, I've gotten used to not breathing much air, except during apnea episodes. So don't know if a nasal pillow mask would work for me. But thanks for your recommendations. I will look into the Swift FX mask.

Like you, I can't stand anything heavier on my face than my super expensive, thin, light-weight glasses. Anything heavier tend to give me horrible tension headaches. That's why the big, uncomfortable mask I have prevents me from really being able to sleep. So I need to find the lightest, most comfortable mask I can get.

Maybe your husband has a jaw problem that makes causes him to be a mouth breather too. I realized that my mask it's too big. I believe it's a medium. The technician that fitted me probably thought that at the time it was a good fit since I was about 130 lbs. heavier then. My face it's much smaller now since losing all that weight.

Thanks for telling me about the website, will check out cpap.com to read the mask reviews there.

Thanks for your help.
Be well,
Sonia



amott1973 said:
HI Sonia. I'm historically a mouth-breather, both at night and during the day. I'm just chronically stuffy and have a hard time getting enough air without breathing through my mouth. That said though, I found that using a nasal pillow mask (first the Swift, then Swift II, then Swift LX, and now the Swift FX) I actually DON'T breathe though my mouth at night anymore. I actually have a chinstrap (somewhere) because I was so sure I'd need it, but I guess with the constant air pressure from the nasal pillow mask it gets enough air up there that I don't feel the need to breathe through my mouth.

You had mentioned that it's hard for you to get used to anything heavy on your face. I have the same thing. Wearing sunglasses is even uncomfortable unless they're really really lightweight. I have to say the new Swift FX, just got it on Friday, is even less obtrusive than the other Swift models. I can still take a drink or read easily with it on. I also found that nasal masks and full face masks (cause I've tried a bunch!) hit some pressure points right near my nose over my sinuses that make them unbearable to me.

I guess the real point is to keep trying different masks till you find one that works for you. My stepmother in law went through something like 6-10 masks at first to get one that would work for her. She drove her DME crazy, but she kept at it and did find one. She was a good inspiration for me when it came time for my to get on CPAP.

One other thing, my husband uses a full face mask. He has some anatomical things that make it mandatory for him. I noticed though that his has the bottom part of the mask hitting right below his mouth, kind of in that dent between your lower lip and chin. Maybe not all full face masks are supposed to be there, but you're right in that yours could be too big.

Also, when I'm looking around at masks I like to use cpap.com as they have tons of reviews and lots of good pictures of each mask from different angles. I feel like I get a good feel for the masks' strengths and weaknesses from the reviews too.

Good luck!
yes, if i were in your shoes, i'd head to an ENT. i'm not usually a proponent of surgery, but you might be a good candidate for some low risk procedure to increase airflow through your nose. make sure if you go to an ENT, you're going to one who has a very cautious attitude toward surgery.

Sonia S. said:
Hi Mike,

I don't choose to breathe through my mouth. My mouth opens every night when I relax enough to sleep. Even with my CPAP's humidifier I still need to drink water at least a couple of times during the night to relieve my dry mouth and throat. I think one reason my mouth opens is that my lower jaw is not aligned with my upper jaw, it's more pushed back, causing my mouth to open when I'm laying down and relaxed.

Also, my nose usually feels congested. I've always, for as long as I remember, have had trouble breathing well, but have never had Asthma and don't think I have real allergies, like to pollen since my eyes don't water and don't get runny or itchy nose. My nasal passage and nostrils have always felt swollen or stuffed up or not big enough to allow enough air. I spend a great deal of time trying to clear my nose, but there's usually nothing there to clear.

I will take your suggestion to see a nose specialist.

Hoping that by learning better breathing and getting a new, more comfortable mask will help me breathe better.

Thanks for your reply and suggestions.

Sonia


Mike said:
I would change your perspective on this question a bit: why are you mouth breathing? breathing through the mouth is sub-optimal as there are many benefits to breathing through your nose. also, breathing through your mouth tends to by a symptom of something wrong with your nose that should be corrected. do you have allergies? sinus problems? my take is you should see an ENT (Dr. Park or someone like that) and work with that physician to fix your nose so that you can breathe out of it. Then you will have a clearer path to effective CPAP treatment, using a less bulky, more comfortable mask than the full face mask. Make sense?
Mike,
Can you recommend a good ENT that's located in NYC?
Yes. Dr. Steven Park is a good ENT in NYC He also has a very conservative, cautious approach to surgery, and says that only 10 percent of his patients are good candidates for surgery. That's rare to find in an ENT. In other words, you'll be in good hands with Dr. Park.

Sonia S. said:
Mike,
Can you recommend a good ENT that's located in NYC?
Good, I will talk with him. I'm listening to his telecon. on masks that he's giving on Tuesday. Do you know if he accepts Medicare or Medicaid? I have both.
I don't know about what insurance he accepts. Best to call his office on Monday to ask.

Sonia S. said:
Good, I will talk with him. I'm listening to his telecon. on masks that he's giving on Tuesday. Do you know if he accepts Medicare or Medicaid? I have both.

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