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richard graham posted a status
"I moved and have been sick a lot and can't use cpap because of cough and I'm depressed a lot"
Apr 26
Fred posted a discussion

CPAP - cure worse than the disease

It's ironic that before I was diagnosed with sleep apnea in 2000, I had no problem sleeping 8-9 hours a night. If I did wake up during the night, I had no problem falling right back to sleep, and I wasn't tired during the day.From the first night I brought home the CPAP I haven't had one decent night's sleep. Not one. I don't have any problem falling asleep, but I can't stay asleep. At first I was waking up after 4-5 hours and couldn't get back to sleep for a couple of hours. Now it's more like…See More
Apr 13
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Apr 13
ZolliStar posted a discussion

New mouth device on the market

I've been hearing advertising for this product over the past few days.  It's sold as something to help snoring, but as I look at the information it seems to me that it would work just as well as my mandibular advancement device (MAD).In other words, this could help some of us with sleep apnea.Read about it here.Anybody have any thoughts about this?  See More
Mar 31
99 replied to Mary Z's discussion AHI finally under five.
"Hi Richard I mainly use an empty humidifier as it reduces noise"
Feb 16
richard graham left a comment for richard graham
"When I can afford it I'd like to get New machine with heated tube"
Feb 10
richard graham replied to Mary Z's discussion AHI finally under five.
"I would like to see this forum active again as well. I will be more aware of what's going on"
Feb 10
ZolliStar posted a discussion

If you have trouble falling asleep....

I thought that when I got my sleep apnea diagnosis, that -- at last! -- all my sleep problems had come to an end.Ha!I have trouble falling asleep. Indeed, I rarely feel sleepy at night although I do feel tired. I even cut back on computer at night, etc., etc. (and installed f.lux on my computer) but I still had trouble. Now I'm doing something different: wearing special glasses (Uvex S1933X Skyper Safety Eyewear glasses). They block out the blue -- and they're making a difference! First I tried…See More
Feb 1
99 replied to 99's discussion colloidal silver
"i have purchased some silver the make my own colloidal silver"
Dec 21, 2014
99 replied to 99's discussion colloidal silver
"just add to the distilled water it is antimicrobial eg cleans your machine and is beneficial for keeping you healthy  from bugs germs viruses you get the picture and when you need to clean the humidifier out, put water on your plants the silver…"
Dec 21, 2014
Mary Z left a comment for richard graham
"If the heated tube works with your machine I would try that.  They also make covers for your tubing which may help some.  I think the heated tube may be your answer.  Keep us posted."
Dec 21, 2014
Mary Z left a comment for richard graham
"Richard, some folks just use the humidifier in a Passover mode.  They just don't turn it on, but let the air pick up moisture without heat."
Dec 21, 2014
Mary Z replied to 99's discussion colloidal silver
"99, where have you been?  Do you add the colloidal silver to your humidifier?"
Dec 21, 2014
Mary Z replied to Andy's discussion Resmed S8 AutoSet II - No Longer Collecting Data??
"I Andy, I realize I'm months behind your post.  I have no idea why your S8 would stoop collecting data.  I'm glad to hear  you're having such improvement with your apnea.  I have made great strides since I changed…"
Dec 21, 2014
Mary Z replied to Andy's discussion Resmed S10 AirSense - Anyone have one? Any feedback?
"Andy, just found your post.  I don't know anything about this new machine.  How are you liking your new ResMed?"
Dec 21, 2014
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"Kay, I haven't been around myself and miss the old, active forum."
Dec 21, 2014
Mary Z left a comment for richard graham
"Hi Richard,  I don't bother with a humidifier.  Someone on the forum suggested not using it and I'm a lot less congested without it.  A good AHI is under 5.  I use the Wisp and have been since it came out.  I think…"
Dec 21, 2014
hifay replied to Mary Z's discussion Sleep apnea increases risk of osteoporosis
"Always something. Thanks for the information."
Dec 21, 2014
99 posted a discussion

colloidal silver

a humidifier can be used with colloidal silverthis can keep the humidifier clean for day maybe weeks or longer without the need to clean the humidifiersilver colloidal is antimicrobial and you could just top up your humidifier without cleaning and at the same time treat your bodyor you just put silver on it own into the humidifierSee More
Dec 20, 2014
richard graham posted a status
"I feel like the humidifier is making me feel yucky and I'm waking up hacking and having to clear my throat a lot for a while."
Nov 3, 2014
Would like your recommendation for best, most comfortable mask for mouth breathers or for those that tend to sleep with their mouth open.

I currently use a Comfort Full II mask which I find terribly uncomfortable, though mine might be a bit too large for my face, but even if it was smaller I believe I would still find it uncomfortable since I can't stand anything that weights more than my thin, light-framed glasses on my face for long periods.

Thanks,
Sonia


See my other post that shows pictures of my uncomfortable Comfort Full II mask:
http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/is-my-mask-too-big

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I would change your perspective on this question a bit: why are you mouth breathing? breathing through the mouth is sub-optimal as there are many benefits to breathing through your nose. also, breathing through your mouth tends to by a symptom of something wrong with your nose that should be corrected. do you have allergies? sinus problems? my take is you should see an ENT (Dr. Park or someone like that) and work with that physician to fix your nose so that you can breathe out of it. Then you will have a clearer path to effective CPAP treatment, using a less bulky, more comfortable mask than the full face mask. Make sense?
Hi welcome to sleep guide. I am a nose and mouth breather. I use the liberty hybrid mask. I have used a mirage quatro full face, the oracle mouth only mask and the opus nose mask. Out of the 4 masks I have tried I have had the best success with the liberty.

I had a severe nose sore that infected a large portion of my face, even my eyes swelled shut, caused by the mirage quatro.
It took several weeks for my nose to heal. to say the least this is not my favorite mask.

I hardly know that i am wearing the liberty mask. I have been using it about 3 weeks. I hope this helps.

Carl
It is possible that your pressures are not where they should be. Pressure that is to high or low can cause mouth leaks.
HI Sonia. I'm historically a mouth-breather, both at night and during the day. I'm just chronically stuffy and have a hard time getting enough air without breathing through my mouth. That said though, I found that using a nasal pillow mask (first the Swift, then Swift II, then Swift LX, and now the Swift FX) I actually DON'T breathe though my mouth at night anymore. I actually have a chinstrap (somewhere) because I was so sure I'd need it, but I guess with the constant air pressure from the nasal pillow mask it gets enough air up there that I don't feel the need to breathe through my mouth.

You had mentioned that it's hard for you to get used to anything heavy on your face. I have the same thing. Wearing sunglasses is even uncomfortable unless they're really really lightweight. I have to say the new Swift FX, just got it on Friday, is even less obtrusive than the other Swift models. I can still take a drink or read easily with it on. I also found that nasal masks and full face masks (cause I've tried a bunch!) hit some pressure points right near my nose over my sinuses that make them unbearable to me.

I guess the real point is to keep trying different masks till you find one that works for you. My stepmother in law went through something like 6-10 masks at first to get one that would work for her. She drove her DME crazy, but she kept at it and did find one. She was a good inspiration for me when it came time for my to get on CPAP.

One other thing, my husband uses a full face mask. He has some anatomical things that make it mandatory for him. I noticed though that his has the bottom part of the mask hitting right below his mouth, kind of in that dent between your lower lip and chin. Maybe not all full face masks are supposed to be there, but you're right in that yours could be too big.

Also, when I'm looking around at masks I like to use cpap.com as they have tons of reviews and lots of good pictures of each mask from different angles. I feel like I get a good feel for the masks' strengths and weaknesses from the reviews too.

Good luck!
Hi Mike,

I don't choose to breathe through my mouth. My mouth opens every night when I relax enough to sleep. Even with my CPAP's humidifier I still need to drink water at least a couple of times during the night to relieve my dry mouth and throat. I think one reason my mouth opens is that my lower jaw is not aligned with my upper jaw, it's more pushed back, causing my mouth to open when I'm laying down and relaxed.

Also, my nose usually feels congested. I've always, for as long as I remember, have had trouble breathing well, but have never had Asthma and don't think I have real allergies, like to pollen since my eyes don't water and don't get runny or itchy nose. My nasal passage and nostrils have always felt swollen or stuffed up or not big enough to allow enough air. I spend a great deal of time trying to clear my nose, but there's usually nothing there to clear.

I will take your suggestion to see a nose specialist.

Hoping that by learning better breathing and getting a new, more comfortable mask will help me breathe better.

Thanks for your reply and suggestions.

Sonia


Mike said:
I would change your perspective on this question a bit: why are you mouth breathing? breathing through the mouth is sub-optimal as there are many benefits to breathing through your nose. also, breathing through your mouth tends to by a symptom of something wrong with your nose that should be corrected. do you have allergies? sinus problems? my take is you should see an ENT (Dr. Park or someone like that) and work with that physician to fix your nose so that you can breathe out of it. Then you will have a clearer path to effective CPAP treatment, using a less bulky, more comfortable mask than the full face mask. Make sense?
Hi Carl,

Thanks for the welcome and the mask suggestions. I'm glad you were able to find a good, comfortable mask. I will look for information on the Liberty Hybrid mask you like.

Be well,

Sonia


Carl Speas said:
Hi welcome to sleep guide. I am a nose and mouth breather. I use the liberty hybrid mask. I have used a mirage quatro full face, the oracle mouth only mask and the opus nose mask. Out of the 4 masks I have tried I have had the best success with the liberty.

I had a severe nose sore that infected a large portion of my face, even my eyes swelled shut, caused by the mirage quatro.
It took several weeks for my nose to heal. to say the least this is not my favorite mask.

I hardly know that i am wearing the liberty mask. I have been using it about 3 weeks. I hope this helps.

Carl
Hi amott,

I don't breathe through my mouth while I'm awake, it's only when I'm sleeping and my mouth opens. That's the reason I picked a full mask instead of the small nasal one. As a little girl I was told enough times to close my mouth and keep it close for it to had become a habit, so even though my lower jaw is not aligned with my upper jaw I learned to push my chin and lower jaw forward to keep my mouth close while I'm awake. But since my muscles relaxed during sleep it's easy for my mouth to open when I'm sleeping, especially if I'm lying on my back. And though I've always felt my nose is stuffy, I've gotten used to not breathing much air, except during apnea episodes. So don't know if a nasal pillow mask would work for me. But thanks for your recommendations. I will look into the Swift FX mask.

Like you, I can't stand anything heavier on my face than my super expensive, thin, light-weight glasses. Anything heavier tend to give me horrible tension headaches. That's why the big, uncomfortable mask I have prevents me from really being able to sleep. So I need to find the lightest, most comfortable mask I can get.

Maybe your husband has a jaw problem that makes causes him to be a mouth breather too. I realized that my mask it's too big. I believe it's a medium. The technician that fitted me probably thought that at the time it was a good fit since I was about 130 lbs. heavier then. My face it's much smaller now since losing all that weight.

Thanks for telling me about the website, will check out cpap.com to read the mask reviews there.

Thanks for your help.
Be well,
Sonia



amott1973 said:
HI Sonia. I'm historically a mouth-breather, both at night and during the day. I'm just chronically stuffy and have a hard time getting enough air without breathing through my mouth. That said though, I found that using a nasal pillow mask (first the Swift, then Swift II, then Swift LX, and now the Swift FX) I actually DON'T breathe though my mouth at night anymore. I actually have a chinstrap (somewhere) because I was so sure I'd need it, but I guess with the constant air pressure from the nasal pillow mask it gets enough air up there that I don't feel the need to breathe through my mouth.

You had mentioned that it's hard for you to get used to anything heavy on your face. I have the same thing. Wearing sunglasses is even uncomfortable unless they're really really lightweight. I have to say the new Swift FX, just got it on Friday, is even less obtrusive than the other Swift models. I can still take a drink or read easily with it on. I also found that nasal masks and full face masks (cause I've tried a bunch!) hit some pressure points right near my nose over my sinuses that make them unbearable to me.

I guess the real point is to keep trying different masks till you find one that works for you. My stepmother in law went through something like 6-10 masks at first to get one that would work for her. She drove her DME crazy, but she kept at it and did find one. She was a good inspiration for me when it came time for my to get on CPAP.

One other thing, my husband uses a full face mask. He has some anatomical things that make it mandatory for him. I noticed though that his has the bottom part of the mask hitting right below his mouth, kind of in that dent between your lower lip and chin. Maybe not all full face masks are supposed to be there, but you're right in that yours could be too big.

Also, when I'm looking around at masks I like to use cpap.com as they have tons of reviews and lots of good pictures of each mask from different angles. I feel like I get a good feel for the masks' strengths and weaknesses from the reviews too.

Good luck!
yes, if i were in your shoes, i'd head to an ENT. i'm not usually a proponent of surgery, but you might be a good candidate for some low risk procedure to increase airflow through your nose. make sure if you go to an ENT, you're going to one who has a very cautious attitude toward surgery.

Sonia S. said:
Hi Mike,

I don't choose to breathe through my mouth. My mouth opens every night when I relax enough to sleep. Even with my CPAP's humidifier I still need to drink water at least a couple of times during the night to relieve my dry mouth and throat. I think one reason my mouth opens is that my lower jaw is not aligned with my upper jaw, it's more pushed back, causing my mouth to open when I'm laying down and relaxed.

Also, my nose usually feels congested. I've always, for as long as I remember, have had trouble breathing well, but have never had Asthma and don't think I have real allergies, like to pollen since my eyes don't water and don't get runny or itchy nose. My nasal passage and nostrils have always felt swollen or stuffed up or not big enough to allow enough air. I spend a great deal of time trying to clear my nose, but there's usually nothing there to clear.

I will take your suggestion to see a nose specialist.

Hoping that by learning better breathing and getting a new, more comfortable mask will help me breathe better.

Thanks for your reply and suggestions.

Sonia


Mike said:
I would change your perspective on this question a bit: why are you mouth breathing? breathing through the mouth is sub-optimal as there are many benefits to breathing through your nose. also, breathing through your mouth tends to by a symptom of something wrong with your nose that should be corrected. do you have allergies? sinus problems? my take is you should see an ENT (Dr. Park or someone like that) and work with that physician to fix your nose so that you can breathe out of it. Then you will have a clearer path to effective CPAP treatment, using a less bulky, more comfortable mask than the full face mask. Make sense?
Mike,
Can you recommend a good ENT that's located in NYC?
Yes. Dr. Steven Park is a good ENT in NYC He also has a very conservative, cautious approach to surgery, and says that only 10 percent of his patients are good candidates for surgery. That's rare to find in an ENT. In other words, you'll be in good hands with Dr. Park.

Sonia S. said:
Mike,
Can you recommend a good ENT that's located in NYC?
Good, I will talk with him. I'm listening to his telecon. on masks that he's giving on Tuesday. Do you know if he accepts Medicare or Medicaid? I have both.
I don't know about what insurance he accepts. Best to call his office on Monday to ask.

Sonia S. said:
Good, I will talk with him. I'm listening to his telecon. on masks that he's giving on Tuesday. Do you know if he accepts Medicare or Medicaid? I have both.

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