SleepGuide

Sleep Apnea Forum Bringing Power to the Patient

Eric Thayer

Recent news article about sleep apnea, observation and question

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/features/2009/0708/122425022520...

A couple things stood out to me with the article. One poor guy had to way 18 months to get his initial sleep study! Wow!

One quote in the article is "“Snoring in itself is harmless. Yes it is a nuisance, but it won’t adversely affect your health. What is bad for your health is a condition called sleep apnoea,...". Would experts in the field really say this? What about snoring that causes airflow limitation that arouses you out of sleep? You may not show low oxygen levels, but isn't your sleep fragmented and thus exposing yourself to the problems of sleep deprivation and the problems caused by the repeated arousal responses?

Tags: flow, limitations, reras, snoring

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Eric, you're correct to note the problem with the statement: "snoring in itself is harmless." I would be concerned with Respiratory Effort Related Arousals (RERAs): Sleep Arousals due to respiratory events characterized by pressure flow limitations in the airflow indicator channel without significant O2 desaturations. As i understand it, there are 2 schools of thought among sleep medicine "experts" on this -- that it's important to measure and be concerned about RERAs / that it's not important to measure and be concerned about RERAs. I know that Stanford's Sleep Center, considered possible the foremost in the world, falls into the first camp -- they care deeply about RERAs.

Also, it seems obvious to me that all this stuff falls on a spectrum of harmfulness, and that RERAs/snoring is only slightly harmful. Just because it isn't harmful enough to get any respect with the AASM, or American Academy of Sleep Medicine, which is the governing body for the Sleep Medicine field, doesn't mean they won't change their mind one day and give it the prominence it deserves.

Also if you snore, you have "sleep apnea light" -- not full-blown sleep apnea.... yet. Chances are with age and sagging tissue in the airway, someone who snores will develop full-blown sleep apnea at some point in their lives.

Reply to This

There is evidence beginning to come forth that moderate to heavy snoring, without any other SDB condition, increases the risk of vascular plaque breaking loose.

Reply to This

Reply to This

RSS

CPAP Supplies



Latest Activity

Yup, if you've got insurance, your insurance dictates which local DME providers you can use. Just because you bought your CPAP elsewhere does NOT mean that your insurance contracted providers can't or won't provide your masks and other accessories.…
43 minutes ago
Linda, thanks your your help. When I call Apria, I wil ask them why they did not offer me a payment plan. Good luck!
1 hour ago
Hi Candace, Apria is giving me a payment plan for 10 months, after that I will buy it if I still need it. In the mean time, all of the folks here are so helpful they told me the best cpap to get and low and behold, Apria did not give me a newer mode…
1 hour ago
Linda, I read your question re: CPAP Machine and Apria. I also am not impressed with them. I have Kaiser and Kaiser will not pay for my equipment. Apria says that I have to pay all costs up front. Are you on a payment plan with Apria. I have severe…
1 hour ago
candace wells, Jon and CLIFTON MCDONALD joined SleepGuide
1 hour ago
First, let me say, Thank you for going to bat for us. I think you are doing a fantastic job in spreading OSA awareness and providing us with OSA a place to go for support. Apparently there is no connection between a college degree and intelligence,…
3 hours ago
You hit the nail on the head. I had a similar experience last year with another organization, The Alzheimer's Association. I ask for permission to pass out a flyer, "Does Sleep Apnea Cause Alzheimer's Disease?," at one of their annual meetings regar…
4 hours ago
Then she should say that... Say anything other than the falsehood that the connection between OSA and heart disease isn't sufficiently proven. 
4 hours ago
"Respironics recommends that new patients purchase their devices, masks and initial accessories from a homecare company that can provide an individualized patient equipment set-up, clinical and after-sale support, and a program to assist patients wi…
4 hours ago
Maybe you should be the communications director for the AHA ;-).
4 hours ago
I believe that individuals should be free to make decisions for themselves. This goes for the patients and the providers. The patient is free to decide what to do and who to pay for what services. The provider is free to decide what services he offe…
4 hours ago
I'M NOT A 100% SURE OF THE NAME OF MY MASK I THINK IT'S CALLED A PROFILE LITE IT HAS A THICK GEL CUSHION ON THE FORHEAD PIECE AND THE ALL AROUND THE MASK. I STILL END UP WITH RED MARKS ON THE BRIDGE OF MY NOSE AND FOREHEAD BUT THEY FADE IN AN HOUR O…
5 hours ago
by no means am i suggesting that this one person believes one thing or another. rather, she is the director of marketing and communications for the AHA. it is her job to communicate the organization's viewpoints to the public, and that's what she wa…
5 hours ago
HEY, I read the funny e-mails! HAH, I'm heading north tomorrow...
5 hours ago
Jon added a discussion
I received my machine in March with a nasal pillow mask. I switched to a full face mask because I was breathing thru my mouth.I was struggling with getting used to wearing the mask, finally got to the point of wearing it every night.I could not get…
6 hours ago
Ah ha, BirdShell!!! You can ignore me, but we managed to lure you out of your hiding place w/this thread, eh?? Too bad too. Danielle, Ashley, Nicole and I are all meeting at La Placita in Saginaw for lunch tomorrow. I'll be thinking of you!!!! Nico…
6 hours ago
I agree with your advice,Mike.Once I was treated for a sinus infection,I had replaced everything .Also, it is a good idea to use saline to cleanse the sinuses at least twice daily . You may look into the use of a Nettie Pot,,,,that can throughly cle…
6 hours ago
I tried wearing a band aid on the bridge of my nose the other night and it helped, but not enough. Most of the "solutions' that I've found end up causing to much air to leak. I started wearing the bandana (folded in several layers and tied like a he…
6 hours ago
I have to comment! I ran Jump Rope for Heart (JRFH) activities/fundraisers in my classes for years. (For more information: http://www.aahperd.org/jump/ and http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=2360 This is a good condensation of t…
6 hours ago
I've beeb using Sleep Strip for years. It's a good screening test that correlates pretty well with formal sleep studies. It won't give you a number, but rather ranges from none, to mild, moderate or severe. You still need a doctor's prescription. Ty…
6 hours ago

© 2010   Created by The SleepGuide Crew.

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service