Lucid Dreams? - SleepGuide2024-03-29T14:40:57Zhttps://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/lucid-dreams?commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A71301&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMark, How are you doing. Have…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2010-08-07:2549090:Comment:769742010-08-07T01:33:08.621ZBanyonhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/Banyon
Mark, How are you doing. Have the dreams subsided?
Mark, How are you doing. Have the dreams subsided? This is a really cool thing t…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2010-06-10:2549090:Comment:713452010-06-10T00:17:27.098ZMarkhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/MarkWhitaker
This is a really cool thing to ponder, Ecclesiastes 5:3, "For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words."<br />
Ecclesiastes 5:7: "For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear thou God."<br />
"And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:".in Acts…
This is a really cool thing to ponder, Ecclesiastes 5:3, "For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words."<br />
Ecclesiastes 5:7: "For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear thou God."<br />
"And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:".in Acts 2:17<br />
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<cite>Banyon said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/lucid-dreams?id=2549090%3ATopic%3A70940&page=2#2549090Comment71307"><div>Being a believer in a Creator who created each of us in his own image, I find the subject of dreaming fascinating.<br/> <br/>
Did God create us with a mind that dreams when asleep? If so, why did he create us with this attribute? Is dreaming a God-like attribute?<br/>
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Or were we created without dreams and original sin brought dreams into our lives?</div>
</blockquote> THANK YOU!! Banyon on June 7,…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2010-06-10:2549090:Comment:713442010-06-10T00:10:08.958ZMarkhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/MarkWhitaker
THANK YOU!! Banyon on June 7, 2010 at 2:43pm<br />
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<cite>Banyon said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/lucid-dreams#2549090Comment71106"><div><i><u>Mark said: Lucid dreams .... not happy dreams ....</u></i><br></br> <br></br> Mark,<br></br>
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What is happening to you is an excellent indication of good therapy. When I started CPAP, I went through the same thing - many vivid dreams and many of them unpleasant. Many other beginning CPAPers report the same thing.<br></br>
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THANK YOU!! Banyon on June 7, 2010 at 2:43pm<br />
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<cite>Banyon said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/lucid-dreams#2549090Comment71106"><div><i><u>Mark said: Lucid dreams .... not happy dreams ....</u></i><br/> <br/>
Mark,<br/>
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What is happening to you is an excellent indication of good therapy. When I started CPAP, I went through the same thing - many vivid dreams and many of them unpleasant. Many other beginning CPAPers report the same thing.<br/>
<br/>
Here is what is going on. Prior to CPAP you had many respiratory related arousals (RERAs) which caused you to get very little REM sleep (and maybe very little sleep at all). Now these arousals are being greatly reduced by CPAP and you are experiencing what some call "REM rebound".<br/>
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When transitioning from a state of little REM sleep to a state of good sleep, the portion of time spent in REM sleep will be unusually high. The most dreams occur during REM sleep and people are more likely to remember dreams that occur during REM sleep. REM rebound can last a few nights and some people report it lasts for weeks.<br/>
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What can help a person with the fear is, first, knowledge that REM rebound is a normal, healthy experience; second, understanding that everyone's dreams are strange by one standard or another: and third, knowing that the amount, vividness and strangeness of the dreams will subside in time.<br/>
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I had been sleep deprived for a long time and it took several weeks before the dreams subsided. Fortunately I was informed about REM rebound and kept telling myself it was normal and would eventually go away.<br/>
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Some people like to record their dreams in a journal. (My real life is so strange and wonderful that I didn't take the time to record the dreams. :))<br/>
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Here is a mention of REM rebound - <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/UBNRP/sleep_deprivation/intro04.html" target="_blank">http://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/UBNRP/sleep_deprivatio...</a></div>
</blockquote> Being a believer in a Creator…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2010-06-09:2549090:Comment:713072010-06-09T14:35:33.480ZBanyonhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/Banyon
Being a believer in a Creator who created each of us in his own image, I find the subject of dreaming fascinating.<br />
<br />
Did God create us with a mind that dreams when asleep? If so, why did he create us with this attribute? Is dreaming a God-like attribute?<br />
<br />
Or were we created without dreams and original sin brought dreams into our lives?
Being a believer in a Creator who created each of us in his own image, I find the subject of dreaming fascinating.<br />
<br />
Did God create us with a mind that dreams when asleep? If so, why did he create us with this attribute? Is dreaming a God-like attribute?<br />
<br />
Or were we created without dreams and original sin brought dreams into our lives? Here are 2 papers I found int…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2010-06-09:2549090:Comment:713062010-06-09T14:20:00.301ZRockRpsgthttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/RockHinkle
Here are 2 papers I found interesting on dreams.
Here are 2 papers I found interesting on dreams. It is obvious to any polysmno…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2010-06-09:2549090:Comment:713012010-06-09T14:13:01.231ZD. W. Connhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/DWConn
It is obvious to any polysmnographer that the brain is very active during sleep. We see different levels of brain activity during the night. It was no shocker when they found dream type images during all stages of sleep. Night terrors are associated with Slow wave or Delta sleep. Most of the dream like images are not remembered by individuals unless they have a hard wake during these other Non-REM cycles. I will have to see if I can locate the NOVA documentary I find the subject interesting.
It is obvious to any polysmnographer that the brain is very active during sleep. We see different levels of brain activity during the night. It was no shocker when they found dream type images during all stages of sleep. Night terrors are associated with Slow wave or Delta sleep. Most of the dream like images are not remembered by individuals unless they have a hard wake during these other Non-REM cycles. I will have to see if I can locate the NOVA documentary I find the subject interesting. I don't know much about this…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2010-06-08:2549090:Comment:712042010-06-08T17:55:38.618Zbonesighhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/bonesigh
I don't know much about this but I saw a documentary on sleep (think it was a NOVA program) and they did a study where they woke someone up during different stages of REM dreaming. They said we used to think that we only dream in REM but found there was another stage of dream sleep. The patient was awoke in the two stages. He filled out a questionaire. During one stage all his answers were positive and uplifting. In the other stage all the answers were negative. They believe that it is…
I don't know much about this but I saw a documentary on sleep (think it was a NOVA program) and they did a study where they woke someone up during different stages of REM dreaming. They said we used to think that we only dream in REM but found there was another stage of dream sleep. The patient was awoke in the two stages. He filled out a questionaire. During one stage all his answers were positive and uplifting. In the other stage all the answers were negative. They believe that it is necessary to have both stages of dream sleep. They believe that some people only dream in the negative stage and they say that this may be a main cause of depression.<br />
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I know for me that I never have good dreams. There is always some element of anxiety or danger, etc. I've had a handful of lucid dreams. What really made me take note of not having good dreams was the show I mentioned and that I recently had a part of a dream that felt good and happy and, well I just can't really explain it in words, it was so alien to experience. I'll never forget that dream or the feeling inside it. I don't know why I dream this way. I currently have a pretty good life. Well except for the OSA and Plantar Fasciitis. I'm doing well with apnea therapy now though it was a long road to go down. Stay strong Mark and hopefully this will all work out for you soon. Mark,
Usually the Lucid and v…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2010-06-08:2549090:Comment:711312010-06-08T10:53:20.817ZD. W. Connhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/DWConn
Mark,<br />
Usually the Lucid and vivid dreams will pass after a while.<br />
Make sure you follow up with your MD. Tell Her/him about the constant dreaming. All thought this is very normal and expected. I am concerned that you continue to have micro-sleep and dream.<br />
Make sure your getting as close to 8 hours of sleep as possible.<br />
Talk to the Physician about the possibility of an MSLT or MWT exam. Also maybe a re-titration of your nPAP. There are medications that can help.<br />
There is also the issue of…
Mark,<br />
Usually the Lucid and vivid dreams will pass after a while.<br />
Make sure you follow up with your MD. Tell Her/him about the constant dreaming. All thought this is very normal and expected. I am concerned that you continue to have micro-sleep and dream.<br />
Make sure your getting as close to 8 hours of sleep as possible.<br />
Talk to the Physician about the possibility of an MSLT or MWT exam. Also maybe a re-titration of your nPAP. There are medications that can help.<br />
There is also the issue of weight. If you are overweight maybe think about shedding a few pounds.<br />
My benefits of CPAP greatly improved once I began to drop some weight. My case was being 5’ 6” and topping out at 260 or so pounds made my OSA much worse and harder to treat. Mark said: Lucid dreams ....…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2010-06-07:2549090:Comment:711062010-06-07T21:43:11.200ZBanyonhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/Banyon
<i><u>Mark said: Lucid dreams .... not happy dreams ....</u></i><br />
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Mark,<br />
<br />
What is happening to you is an excellent indication of good therapy. When I started CPAP, I went through the same thing - many vivid dreams and many of them unpleasant. Many other beginning CPAPers report the same thing.<br />
<br />
Here is what is going on. Prior to CPAP you had many respiratory related arousals (RERAs) which caused you to get very little REM sleep (and maybe very little sleep at all). Now these arousals are being…
<i><u>Mark said: Lucid dreams .... not happy dreams ....</u></i><br />
<br />
Mark,<br />
<br />
What is happening to you is an excellent indication of good therapy. When I started CPAP, I went through the same thing - many vivid dreams and many of them unpleasant. Many other beginning CPAPers report the same thing.<br />
<br />
Here is what is going on. Prior to CPAP you had many respiratory related arousals (RERAs) which caused you to get very little REM sleep (and maybe very little sleep at all). Now these arousals are being greatly reduced by CPAP and you are experiencing what some call "REM rebound".<br />
<br />
When transitioning from a state of little REM sleep to a state of good sleep, the portion of time spent in REM sleep will be unusually high. The most dreams occur during REM sleep and people are more likely to remember dreams that occur during REM sleep. REM rebound can last a few nights and some people report it lasts for weeks.<br />
<br />
What can help a person with the fear is, first, knowledge that REM rebound is a normal, healthy experience; second, understanding that everyone's dreams are strange by one standard or another: and third, knowing that the amount, vividness and strangeness of the dreams will subside in time.<br />
<br />
I had been sleep deprived for a long time and it took several weeks before the dreams subsided. Fortunately I was informed about REM rebound and kept telling myself it was normal and would eventually go away.<br />
<br />
Some people like to record their dreams in a journal. (My real life is so strange and wonderful that I didn't take the time to record the dreams. :))<br />
<br />
Here is a mention of REM rebound - <a href="http://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/UBNRP/sleep_deprivation/intro04.html" target="_blank">http://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/UBNRP/sleep_deprivatio...</a> Mark,
Your comment to my resp…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2010-06-07:2549090:Comment:710572010-06-07T00:51:33.089ZJohn Krainikhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/JohnKrainik
Mark,<br />
Your comment to my response on the "take it off" discussion was:<br />
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" My prescription is for a 25 setting, the CPAP will only do 20, and they said that my sleep study was nuts, I am trying to get my results. I will keep you posted."<br />
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My first thought is that you are only using your CPAP at 16 cwp. According to your response, the doctor prescribed 25 cwp. It is good that you got your ramp problem straightened out. But you stated in the last discussion that your wife said your snoring is…
Mark,<br />
Your comment to my response on the "take it off" discussion was:<br />
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" My prescription is for a 25 setting, the CPAP will only do 20, and they said that my sleep study was nuts, I am trying to get my results. I will keep you posted."<br />
<br />
My first thought is that you are only using your CPAP at 16 cwp. According to your response, the doctor prescribed 25 cwp. It is good that you got your ramp problem straightened out. But you stated in the last discussion that your wife said your snoring is better than it was. Problem is, you are still snoring. My guess is that you need the pressure determined during the titration study. It sounds like the 16 cwp just isn't enough pressure. If you don't use the CPAP at the proper pressure, then you will still suffer the effects of untreated sleep disordered breathing, and you ARE describing the signs and symptoms.<br />
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Many people report that they start dreaming again when they start CPAP. In your situation I would bet that your CPAP is high enough to allow deeper sleep than you were used to, but not enough to treat all of your disordered breathing. The result is broken sleep and the skewed sense of time you are experiencing. Once you start sleeping the night through, you will see the effects of the broken sleep you describe, disappear.<br />
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My best suggestion is to get the pressure situation straightened out. Many CPAP machines only go to 20 cwp. Talk to your DME provider. They should be able to arrange for a machine that will provide your needs.