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It's ironic that before I was diagnosed with sleep apnea in 2000, I had no problem sleeping 8-9 hours a night. If I did wake up during the night, I had no problem falling right back to sleep, and I wasn't tired during the day.From the first night I brought home the CPAP I haven't had one decent night's sleep. Not one. I don't have any problem falling asleep, but I can't stay asleep. At first I was waking up after 4-5 hours and couldn't get back to sleep for a couple of hours. Now it's more like…See More
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I've been hearing advertising for this product over the past few days.  It's sold as something to help snoring, but as I look at the information it seems to me that it would work just as well as my mandibular advancement device (MAD).In other words, this could help some of us with sleep apnea.Read about it here.Anybody have any thoughts about this?  See More
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I thought that when I got my sleep apnea diagnosis, that -- at last! -- all my sleep problems had come to an end.Ha!I have trouble falling asleep. Indeed, I rarely feel sleepy at night although I do feel tired. I even cut back on computer at night, etc., etc. (and installed f.lux on my computer) but I still had trouble. Now I'm doing something different: wearing special glasses (Uvex S1933X Skyper Safety Eyewear glasses). They block out the blue -- and they're making a difference! First I tried…See More
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How high does the CPAP machine need to be?  I keep mine on a box about five inches high on the floor, below my bed.  It would be more convenient to keep it on my bedside table which is the same height as my bed.  I have no trouble with rainout or water in the mask.  The tubing would make a loop downward (like a drip loop for an aquarium).

Thanks,

Mary Z.

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I know the recommendation is typically to keep it lower than the bed to avoid rain out. I don't think it has to be at any specific height.

Try setting it up on the bedside table, though, and let us know how it goes. I doubt it will be a problem.
We modified our waterbed headboard when we ditched the waterbed, but liked the headboard so made a base for it to set on and then used a Hollywood metal frame for the box springs and mattress. This works great for us as we do not want to give up the size (king size) and there isn't room on either side for night tables. This allows us to use the shelves on the headboard for the clock and my machine. My machine is slightly above the mattress and hasn't presented a problem yet, and I have used it like that since August of 2007.
I have mine usually about 1-3 feet below my head height, depending on where I am. This seems to ensure no build up of moisture in the tube.

The best thing I've done to make my life easier is to get a remote control plug adaptor so that I can get myself and mask comfortable in bed before switching the machine on. When away from home, sometimes my machine has had to be located in awkward places for the lead to reach the mains socket %-)
I keep mine on the bedside table, without any issues. I have also had it on the floor with no problem. I think the key is making sure the humidity is set at the proper level. I have to change mine according to the dryness of the house.
I keep mine on the night table, same height as the bed. The hose does loop downward. No problems.

I did get condensation in the hose for a brief while, but no rainout. I heated up the room a little (68F) and the condensation went away. I realize I could try hose insulation (or, if really necessary, a heated hose), but I've personally been more comfortable with a warmer room.
I have to say that I agree with Sharon Fine. The only time that I have a problem with the rainout or tropics in my mask is if the humidity is set too high for the room temp. I keep my room really cool and like to push as much humidity as I can so as to not dry out my throat and sinuses. It is a constant battle so I also have a humidifier running in the room at about 55% and then do not run the APAP as high on the humidity.
I have experienced having the water forming in the mask and then being worried about drowning. Is the drowning fear a reality or not so much to worry about>
I realized recently what could happen when you turned to agressively over in bed and had your tubing tangled in your covers. Yes, you are right the whole cpap unit hit the hardwood floor. So resmed would be happy to know that their S-8 unit passed the consumer reports test for abusing your cpap unit. I am going to keep mine on the floor from now on.
I have tried everything and nothing is working for me. Today I woke up with a mask full of water, It is very frustrating and there are days I just want to quit. I have checked for leaking and having no leaks. I am using the nasal mask. it seems like it is one thing after another. I figured out why my eyes were watering so much and fixed that. I have tried the machine high and low. 8(
I keep mine just about 2-3 inches below my bed. Hose runs into bed under the covers. I've had no problems with rainout whatsoever, nor have I had difficulty with the hose in bed with me. I apparently don't move around a whole lot at night and the hose stays comfortable even under the covers. I rarely wake up and adjust it.

I AM interested in Daniel's using a room humidifier. With all the sinus problems I've had since starting CPAP (7) months ago (acute the past 4-5 weeks), I'm wondering if I could turn down my humidity settings if I had a room humidifier....worth a try. Thanks, Daniel!

Susan McCord :-)

Robert Grace said:
I realized recently what could happen when you turned to agressively over in bed and had your tubing tangled in your covers. Yes, you are right the whole cpap unit hit the hardwood floor. So resmed would be happy to know that their S-8 unit passed the consumer reports test for abusing your cpap unit. I am going to keep mine on the floor from now on.
If you have no problems with rainout then leave it in the convenient place on your nightstand.

Some general guidelines:

1. Below the level of the top of the mattress helps with rainout.
2. Above floor level helps keep dust bunnies from getting sucked into the filter.
3. Below the level of the top of the mattress helps reduce noise if machine is loud.
I usually keep my bi pap sitting on the night stand by my bed, but there has been several instances where I roll over and get my tubing tangled up in my covers and end up pulling the base off the table and onto the floor. It usually gets water in the hoses when this happens. So far my machine has held up pretty well, suprisingly enough. If I put it on the floor, then that gives me a shorter rain on the tubing.

I have on occassion had water to get into my mask. What causes this? I guess this is what people are referring to as rain out?

I have a phoebia about things getting into my mask and into my tubing such as wasps or whatever. I live in the country and I am very allergic to wasp and bee stings. I almost died from bee stings when I was younger. The thought terrifies me. I always try to remember to leave my mask under a pillow when not using it so nothing can get into the tubing.
what does resmed or
resperonics i
or the other manufacturers say

is there a max and min or optimum height

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