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I've been reading and researching the effects of infant and childhood sleep apnea for 5 years. Getting your Peditrician or Primary care physician to explore this optional treatment over ADHD drugs can be difficult.

Watch your kids breath when they are asleep. We are born obligatory nose breathers. If your child (or yourself for that matter) mouth breath when they sleep and have behavioral or focus issues. There's a good chance they have sleep apnea and it needs to be addressed. Either Tonsil and adenoid removal or, in some cases, the use of CPAP. Yes! I have 7 and 8 year olds on CPAP. And it works!!!

http://http://www.king5.com/health/childrens-healthlink/Babies-snor...

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I went through this problem with my 11 yr old. Once we corrected the issue she became an honor role student.

ADHD runs in my family I will pass it on to them. Thank you for bringing  this up

Neal,

 

Do you worry about PAP treatment affecting facial development in pts so young? Does anyone know the surgery stats for peds?

I'm a big believer in all of us having different styles of masks to alternate with Rock due to not having the same pressure points in constant use.  I would imagine it's even more important for kids.

I can't get on Neal's link.  Is anyone else having problems?  Will try again in the morning.

I use 4 different masks in my therapy.

Looks like the link is dead.

Thanks 99 :)

Both my children were really snuffly (not snoring, just really noisy breathers) and I heard them lots of times stop breathing.  My husband used to tell me off for prodding them (this was before we knew about sleep apnoea).  I suspect both my kids could be sufferers - our eldest who's 25 won't entertain the idea - she has bad asthma and doesn't sleep well!  Our son said he'll use one of the Sleep Strips we sell on the website to check (which we're not allowed to sell to the USA, which is silly as they're cheap and very accurate in diagnosing the likelihood of OSA), but keeps delaying it.  He's exactly like I was.... goes to bed as late as possible and can never get enough sleep or get up in a morning.  He sweats loads in his sleep too.  He's also struggled academically, but wasn't labelled with ADHD, dyslexia etc.  His brain is just muddled, even though he's clever in other ways (he's even designed a pillow for us OSA sufferers which we're in the process of having manufactured on UK).  Now you know why I suspect this in BOTH my kids.  Oh, by the way, the ENT surgeon we saw with our 16 year old son a few years back told me "no way does OSA run in families.  That man will live to eat his words :(

Rock,

 

Kids in that age bracket are growing. They require changes with their mask style and size frequently. Sometimes in just as little as 3 months with growth spurts. I have not seen any malformation of facial bones or development on any of my pre-teen or adolescent patients.

RockRpsgt said:

Neal,

 

Do you worry about PAP treatment affecting facial development in pts so young? Does anyone know the surgery stats for peds?

TYTY! I have only performed PAP on 1 child. My own daughter was fixed with the tonsillectomy.

Neal Buckner, LRCP said:

Rock,

 

Kids in that age bracket are growing. They require changes with their mask style and size frequently. Sometimes in just as little as 3 months with growth spurts. I have not seen any malformation of facial bones or development on any of my pre-teen or adolescent patients.

RockRpsgt said:

Neal,

 

Do you worry about PAP treatment affecting facial development in pts so young? Does anyone know the surgery stats for peds?

Do you know why somethings that are effective are not allowed to be sold in the united states. I know one of the reasons might be because if something is effective and cheap it would cause some company that charge alot of money to become obsolete . Therefore losing millions or billions off the sick. Example is the cancer industry. FDA had been fighting for decades Dr Burzynski's cure for cancer which bring down the current way of treatment.

Kath Hope www.hope2Sleep.co.uk said:

Thanks 99 :)

Both my children were really snuffly (not snoring, just really noisy breathers) and I heard them lots of times stop breathing.  My husband used to tell me off for prodding them (this was before we knew about sleep apnoea).  I suspect both my kids could be sufferers - our eldest who's 25 won't entertain the idea - she has bad asthma and doesn't sleep well!  Our son said he'll use one of the Sleep Strips we sell on the website to check (which we're not allowed to sell to the USA, which is silly as they're cheap and very accurate in diagnosing the likelihood of OSA), but keeps delaying it.  He's exactly like I was.... goes to bed as late as possible and can never get enough sleep or get up in a morning.  He sweats loads in his sleep too.  He's also struggled academically, but wasn't labelled with ADHD, dyslexia etc.  His brain is just muddled, even though he's clever in other ways (he's even designed a pillow for us OSA sufferers which we're in the process of having manufactured on UK).  Now you know why I suspect this in BOTH my kids.  Oh, by the way, the ENT surgeon we saw with our 16 year old son a few years back told me "no way does OSA run in families.  That man will live to eat his words :(

Apparently, they are used in the USA (Dr Park's uses them) but they have to be prescribed by a physician.  It's a shame, as they're a real cheap way of checking whether you need a full sleep study, and they've been truly accurate.  Here in the UK, people buy them so they can convince their GP's to refer them (we have a completely different health system over here).

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