Does CPAP Weaken Tongue? - SleepGuide2024-03-28T16:45:39Zhttps://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206436&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noRockRpsgt, your innate humor…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2012-02-12:2549090:Comment:2064972012-02-12T04:57:46.092ZJay Polatnickhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/JayPolatnick
<p>RockRpsgt, your innate humor comes through in your posts as well. Very refreshing.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>RockRpsgt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206310&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2549090Comment206310"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>You make me laugh Jay. It's obvious you don't understand the nature of sleep and it's neuro muscular effects. Im sure that their success at strenghtening the…</p>
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<p>RockRpsgt, your innate humor comes through in your posts as well. Very refreshing.<br/> <br/> <cite>RockRpsgt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206310&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2549090Comment206310"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>You make me laugh Jay. It's obvious you don't understand the nature of sleep and it's neuro muscular effects. Im sure that their success at strenghtening the muscle worked very well. If you work out a muscle it gets stronger. All the strength in the world will not help you when the muscle tone drops to 0%.</p>
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<p>Evolution questionable.....that's funny. I love it when people have agnostic views on evolution. <br/><br/><cite>Jay Polatnick said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?page=7&commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206309&x=1#2549090Comment206495"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Maybe, 'evolution' (which is questionable) is not a death sentence after all ?</p>
<p>I just started experimenting with my 'LipTrainer' <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.LipTrainer.com" target="_blank">www.LipTrainer.com</a> and there is actually valid research from hospitals in Japan in reference to strengthening the relevant muscles.</p>
<p>As for fate being hardwired in your DNA, that is suspect to as per the study of Epigenetics and</p>
<p>the work of Bruce Lipton, Ph.D <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.brucelipton.com/">http://www.brucelipton.com/</a></p>
<p><br/><br/><cite>RockRpsgt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206586&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2549090Comment206586"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I haven't seen too many positive results with this type of thing either Lynn. I just think it's sometimes better to let some learn for themselves. Apnea is caused by a lack of muscle tone(muscle atonia). This is a safety mechanism to keep us from acting out our dreams. It's a product of evolution. You can add strength to whatever muscles you want but when the tone is gone it's gone. I honestly believe the cure the cure for this will cause an even bigger problem somewhere else in our systems. Cna't fight evolution. <br/><br/><cite>Lynn said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?page=7&commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206645&x=1#2549090Comment206645"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Oh really, Been singing for years. I still have sleep apnea. <br/><br/><cite>Marcia Herman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue#2549090Comment206350"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Well, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://robert-rister.suite101.com/exercises-for-fighting-sleep-apnea-a369055" target="_blank">this article</a> seems to agree with the doc - well, sort of. The news is excellent, BTW!</p>
<p>FWIW, I'm seeing a speech therapist on Monday for the exact mouth, tongue, and throat issues. Can't wait to see what happens then!</p>
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</blockquote> You make me laugh Jay. It's o…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2012-02-12:2549090:Comment:2063102012-02-12T04:50:44.325ZRockRpsgthttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/RockHinkle
<p>You make me laugh Jay. It's obvious you don't understand the nature of sleep and it's neuro muscular effects. Im sure that their success at strenghtening the muscle worked very well. If you work out a muscle it gets stronger. All the strength in the world will not help you when the muscle tone drops to 0%.</p>
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<p>Evolution questionable.....that's funny. I love it when people have agnostic views on evolution. <br></br><br></br><cite>Jay Polatnick said:…</cite></p>
<p>You make me laugh Jay. It's obvious you don't understand the nature of sleep and it's neuro muscular effects. Im sure that their success at strenghtening the muscle worked very well. If you work out a muscle it gets stronger. All the strength in the world will not help you when the muscle tone drops to 0%.</p>
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<p>Evolution questionable.....that's funny. I love it when people have agnostic views on evolution. <br/><br/><cite>Jay Polatnick said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?page=7&commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206309&x=1#2549090Comment206495"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Maybe, 'evolution' (which is questionable) is not a death sentence after all ?</p>
<p>I just started experimenting with my 'LipTrainer' <a href="http://www.LipTrainer.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.LipTrainer.com</a> and there is actually valid research from hospitals in Japan in reference to strengthening the relevant muscles.</p>
<p>As for fate being hardwired in your DNA, that is suspect to as per the study of Epigenetics and</p>
<p>the work of Bruce Lipton, Ph.D <a href="http://www.brucelipton.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.brucelipton.com/</a></p>
<p><br/><br/><cite>RockRpsgt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206586&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2549090Comment206586"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I haven't seen too many positive results with this type of thing either Lynn. I just think it's sometimes better to let some learn for themselves. Apnea is caused by a lack of muscle tone(muscle atonia). This is a safety mechanism to keep us from acting out our dreams. It's a product of evolution. You can add strength to whatever muscles you want but when the tone is gone it's gone. I honestly believe the cure the cure for this will cause an even bigger problem somewhere else in our systems. Cna't fight evolution. <br/><br/><cite>Lynn said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?page=7&commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206645&x=1#2549090Comment206645"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Oh really, Been singing for years. I still have sleep apnea. <br/><br/><cite>Marcia Herman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue#2549090Comment206350"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Well, <a href="http://robert-rister.suite101.com/exercises-for-fighting-sleep-apnea-a369055" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this article</a> seems to agree with the doc - well, sort of. The news is excellent, BTW!</p>
<p>FWIW, I'm seeing a speech therapist on Monday for the exact mouth, tongue, and throat issues. Can't wait to see what happens then!</p>
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</blockquote> Warren Buffett isn't a libera…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2012-02-12:2549090:Comment:2063092012-02-12T04:31:32.402ZJay Polatnickhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/JayPolatnick
<p>Warren Buffett isn't a liberal capitalist, he's more of a (not proper to say in polite company)<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Marcia Herman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206586&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2549090Comment206635"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Heck, at this point who can remember his situation?!</p>
<p>But seriously folks, I thought this has already been talked about. There seems to be…</p>
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<p>Warren Buffett isn't a liberal capitalist, he's more of a (not proper to say in polite company)<br/> <br/> <cite>Marcia Herman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206586&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2549090Comment206635"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Heck, at this point who can remember his situation?!</p>
<p>But seriously folks, I thought this has already been talked about. There seems to be no consensus about that just like there is no consensus on the liberal vs capitalism debate. Actually, it's not liberals vs capitalism. There are plenty of liberal capitalists around, like Warren Buffet, Bloomberg, etc. It's really about the liberal-conservative debate. I doubt there will ever be agreement on that. I swear it's in the genes which way one will lean!</p>
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</blockquote> Like I said Agent 99, you can…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2012-02-12:2549090:Comment:2064962012-02-12T04:30:10.052ZJay Polatnickhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/JayPolatnick
<p>Like I said Agent 99, you can divorce medicine from politics. Nothing lives in a vacuum, but a vacuum. Medicine and 'cures' are subject to human judgement as well as what sorts of treatments get researched further and explored. I keep on discussion politics, but more in proportion to the important proper treatment of the condition.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>99 said:…</cite></p>
<p>Like I said Agent 99, you can divorce medicine from politics. Nothing lives in a vacuum, but a vacuum. Medicine and 'cures' are subject to human judgement as well as what sorts of treatments get researched further and explored. I keep on discussion politics, but more in proportion to the important proper treatment of the condition.<br/> <br/> <cite>99 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206586&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2549090Comment206578"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>get off politics and get onto sleep apnea subjects, we can all complain about this and that but what about sleep apnea</p>
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</blockquote> Maybe, 'evolution' (which is…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2012-02-12:2549090:Comment:2064952012-02-12T04:27:27.152ZJay Polatnickhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/JayPolatnick
<p>Maybe, 'evolution' (which is questionable) is not a death sentence after all ?</p>
<p>I just started experimenting with my 'LipTrainer' <a href="http://www.LipTrainer.com" target="_blank">www.LipTrainer.com</a> and there is actually valid research from hospitals in Japan in reference to strengthening the relevant muscles.</p>
<p>As for fate being hardwired in your DNA, that is suspect to as per the study of Epigenetics and</p>
<p>the work of Bruce Lipton, Ph.D …</p>
<p>Maybe, 'evolution' (which is questionable) is not a death sentence after all ?</p>
<p>I just started experimenting with my 'LipTrainer' <a href="http://www.LipTrainer.com" target="_blank">www.LipTrainer.com</a> and there is actually valid research from hospitals in Japan in reference to strengthening the relevant muscles.</p>
<p>As for fate being hardwired in your DNA, that is suspect to as per the study of Epigenetics and</p>
<p>the work of Bruce Lipton, Ph.D <a href="http://www.brucelipton.com/">http://www.brucelipton.com/</a></p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>RockRpsgt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206586&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2549090Comment206586"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I haven't seen too many positive results with this type of thing either Lynn. I just think it's sometimes better to let some learn for themselves. Apnea is caused by a lack of muscle tone(muscle atonia). This is a safety mechanism to keep us from acting out our dreams. It's a product of evolution. You can add strength to whatever muscles you want but when the tone is gone it's gone. I honestly believe the cure the cure for this will cause an even bigger problem somewhere else in our systems. Cna't fight evolution. <br/><br/><cite>Lynn said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?page=7&commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206645&x=1#2549090Comment206645"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Oh really, Been singing for years. I still have sleep apnea. <br/><br/><cite>Marcia Herman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue#2549090Comment206350"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Well, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://robert-rister.suite101.com/exercises-for-fighting-sleep-apnea-a369055" target="_blank">this article</a> seems to agree with the doc - well, sort of. The news is excellent, BTW!</p>
<p>FWIW, I'm seeing a speech therapist on Monday for the exact mouth, tongue, and throat issues. Can't wait to see what happens then!</p>
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</blockquote> I haven't seen too many posit…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2012-02-12:2549090:Comment:2065862012-02-12T03:43:35.731ZRockRpsgthttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/RockHinkle
<p>I haven't seen too many positive results with this type of thing either Lynn. I just think it's sometimes better to let some learn for themselves. Apnea is caused by a lack of muscle tone(muscle atonia). This is a safety mechanism to keep us from acting out our dreams. It's a product of evolution. You can add strength to whatever muscles you want but when the tone is gone it's gone. I honestly believe the cure the cure for this will cause an even bigger problem somewhere else in our systems.…</p>
<p>I haven't seen too many positive results with this type of thing either Lynn. I just think it's sometimes better to let some learn for themselves. Apnea is caused by a lack of muscle tone(muscle atonia). This is a safety mechanism to keep us from acting out our dreams. It's a product of evolution. You can add strength to whatever muscles you want but when the tone is gone it's gone. I honestly believe the cure the cure for this will cause an even bigger problem somewhere else in our systems. Cna't fight evolution. <br/><br/><cite>Lynn said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?page=7&commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206645&x=1#2549090Comment206645"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Oh really, Been singing for years. I still have sleep apnea. <br/><br/><cite>Marcia Herman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue#2549090Comment206350"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Well, <a href="http://robert-rister.suite101.com/exercises-for-fighting-sleep-apnea-a369055" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this article</a> seems to agree with the doc - well, sort of. The news is excellent, BTW!</p>
<p>FWIW, I'm seeing a speech therapist on Monday for the exact mouth, tongue, and throat issues. Can't wait to see what happens then!</p>
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</blockquote> Oh really, Been singing for y…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2012-02-12:2549090:Comment:2066452012-02-12T02:53:23.800ZLynnhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/Lynn957
<p>Oh really, Been singing for years. I still have sleep apnea. <br></br><br></br><cite>Marcia Herman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue#2549090Comment206350"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Well, <a href="http://robert-rister.suite101.com/exercises-for-fighting-sleep-apnea-a369055" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this article</a> seems to agree with the doc - well, sort of. The news is excellent, BTW!</p>
<p>FWIW, I'm seeing a speech…</p>
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<p>Oh really, Been singing for years. I still have sleep apnea. <br/><br/><cite>Marcia Herman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue#2549090Comment206350"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Well, <a href="http://robert-rister.suite101.com/exercises-for-fighting-sleep-apnea-a369055" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this article</a> seems to agree with the doc - well, sort of. The news is excellent, BTW!</p>
<p>FWIW, I'm seeing a speech therapist on Monday for the exact mouth, tongue, and throat issues. Can't wait to see what happens then!</p>
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</blockquote> get off politics and get onto…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2012-02-11:2549090:Comment:2065782012-02-11T23:47:35.138Z99https://www.sleepguide.com/profile/99
<p>get off politics and get onto sleep apnea subjects, we can all complain about this and that but what about sleep apnea</p>
<p>get off politics and get onto sleep apnea subjects, we can all complain about this and that but what about sleep apnea</p> I've said my piece, but I bel…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2012-02-11:2549090:Comment:2065772012-02-11T19:11:58.774ZJay Polatnickhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/JayPolatnick
<p>I've said my piece, but I believe medicine does not live in a vacuum from politics. Costs are a part of any method of treatment as how they are reimbursed and who makes the decisions for allowable reimbursement. Enjoyed the lively debate.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Marcia Herman said:…</cite></p>
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<p>I've said my piece, but I believe medicine does not live in a vacuum from politics. Costs are a part of any method of treatment as how they are reimbursed and who makes the decisions for allowable reimbursement. Enjoyed the lively debate.<br/> <br/> <cite>Marcia Herman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.sleepguide.com/forum/topics/does-cpap-weaken-tongue?commentId=2549090%3AComment%3A206302&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2549090Comment206636"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That's what I implied. It's in the genes and all the discussions in the world won't change that. Feel free to carry it on though - or not.</p>
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</blockquote> That's what I implied. It's i…tag:www.sleepguide.com,2012-02-11:2549090:Comment:2066362012-02-11T17:09:14.241ZMZHhttps://www.sleepguide.com/profile/MarciaHerman
<p>That's what I implied. It's in the genes and all the discussions in the world won't change that. Feel free to carry it on though - or not.</p>
<p>That's what I implied. It's in the genes and all the discussions in the world won't change that. Feel free to carry it on though - or not.</p>