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Ginny Edmundson replied to Ginny Edmundson's discussion Scheduled for evaluation and possible procedure next day
"As of now I no longer have to use a chin strap.  I am anxious about the sleep study.  Wondering if I will be able to sleep WITHOUT the CPAP….even thought I hate it it is a part of every night now and is what I am used to.  "
Sunday
Clueless in Redwood Shores replied to Ginny Edmundson's discussion Scheduled for evaluation and possible procedure next day
"I had it on the same outpatient basis.  Much pain, no long term gain.  I did not have the annual repetition - that might or might not have made the difference. "
Sunday
Mary Z replied to richard graham's discussion mouth breathing
"glad to hear it, Richard.  Keep us posted."
Apr 13
Mary Z left a comment for richard graham
"Glad to hear it's working, Richard."
Apr 11
richard graham replied to richard graham's discussion mouth breathing
"The chin strap is helping. Been having better sleep. Thanks Ginny and Mary for your help"
Apr 11
Ginny Edmundson replied to Ginny Edmundson's discussion Scheduled for evaluation and possible procedure next day
"Thanks, Mary~  Fingers are crossed.  My pressure is one point lower than when I began (7) and AHI is some lower (7 day average).  I am anxious about sleep study as I have not slept without CPAP in 2.5 years!   "
Apr 6
Mary Z replied to Ginny Edmundson's discussion Scheduled for evaluation and possible procedure next day
"Good job, Ginny Hope the sleep study shows some good results."
Apr 6
Ginny Edmundson replied to Ginny Edmundson's discussion Scheduled for evaluation and possible procedure next day
"Last procedure done!  This time he gave me meds to take before so less anxiety while waiting!  For the first time I was able to eat normal food on the way home after the procedure.  No pain after 12 hours.  If it only works.…"
Apr 5
Mary Z replied to richard graham's discussion mouth breathing
"Some folks run their humidifiers in passover mode- not turning on the heat just letting the air blow over the water.  That would not give any heat though. "
Apr 5
richard graham replied to richard graham's discussion mouth breathing
"Interesting, I actually feel a little better when I don't use the humidifier, but the humidifier helps with sinuses. The cold air stuff's me up. Gonna try running heat and a nasal spray"
Apr 4
Mary Z replied to richard graham's discussion mouth breathing
"Good luck with it- let us know how you do, Richard."
Apr 4
richard graham replied to richard graham's discussion mouth breathing
"I just picked up a new chin strap and will use it with my ultra mirage."
Apr 4
richard graham posted a discussion

nasal sprays

Just wanting some suggestions for some good nasal sprays to dry up sinusus. Thank you
Apr 3
richard graham replied to richard graham's discussion mouth breathing
"Thanks Mary"
Apr 3
Mary Z replied to richard graham's discussion mouth breathing
"I have both.  I use the chin strap with my Wisp and I also have a FFM if I choose to use that one. I'm a mouth breather.  I find nasal masks are easier to fit without leaks"
Apr 3
Mary Z replied to Mary Z's discussion Using comfort features
"Nasacort is now available without a prescription.  I personally use Afrin on the rare nights I need it for being stuffed up."
Apr 3
richard graham replied to Mary Z's discussion Using comfort features
"Mary, do you recommend a good nasal spray?"
Apr 2
richard graham replied to richard graham's discussion mouth breathing
"Wondering if mouth breathers do better with FFM"
Apr 2
richard graham posted a discussion

mouth breathing

I'm a mouth breather, and am wondering weather to get a chin strap or affm
Apr 2
richard graham replied to Mary Z's discussion Using comfort features
"I've been thinking about trying a nasal spray. Thanks that's useful info."
Apr 2
Hope this does not act as a jinx...lol I usually suffer from seasonal allergies and have sinus issues. Since beginning CPAP therapy my nasal passages have been wonderfully clear..has the CPAP contributed to this?

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Ralph, I am absolutely CERTAIN that CPAP has contributed significantly to your improved nasal passages!!!!!

LOL!

You know darn well I have no freakin' idea what I'm talking about!!! But I'm happy for you if you're feeling better--THAT'S true!!

Susan McCord :-)
Ralph,

I have had patients that tell me the same thing but it's uncommon. In general, like the other posters, it gets worse temporarily.What you're describing is probably explained by the fact that your chronic rhinitis (or non-allergic rhinitis) condition is improved since using CPAP. This is a neurological imbalance of the involuntary nervous system. Many sleep apnea patients by definition have this and it can present as allergies. It responds somewhat to allergy medications so you don't know what you're treating. It's been shown in a recent study that people with laryngopharyngeal reflux disease (and obstructive sleep apnea) have a relative hypoactive state of the sympathetic nervous system in the nose, with a relative hyperactive parasympathetic nasal nervous system. This is what makes the nose chronically stuffy or runny. The CPAP machine's humidification and filtration system helps too.
Thanks, Dr. Park! It's great to have you on SG, per usual, always with something truly helpful to contribute.

Hey, you guys, check out his book. It's called "Sleep Interrupted"--you'll find it on our SleepGuide Book Club site, along with several other books written by member of SG and others. All have been screened and are worth a look.

Susan McCord
Thank you for your concise reply. I appreciate your taking the time to provide an explanation.

Steven Y. Park, MD said:
Ralph,

I have had patients that tell me the same thing but it's uncommon. In general, like the other posters, it gets worse temporarily.What you're describing is probably explained by the fact that your chronic rhinitis (or non-allergic rhinitis) condition is improved since using CPAP. This is a neurological imbalance of the involuntary nervous system. Many sleep apnea patients by definition have this and it can present as allergies. It responds somewhat to allergy medications so you don't know what you're treating. It's been shown in a recent study that people with laryngopharyngeal reflux disease (and obstructive sleep apnea) have a relative hypoactive state of the sympathetic nervous system in the nose, with a relative hyperactive parasympathetic nasal nervous system. This is what makes the nose chronically stuffy or runny. The CPAP machine's humidification and filtration system helps too.

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